# The Amazing Race 11/12  (spoilers possible)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 13, 2006, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177 "2006-11-13T01:27:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/21 "2006-11-13T14:19:11Z")

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[QUOTE=zut]  
Next week: I bet we finally see a Yield.  
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Lord, I hope not. I’ve been perfectly content to go the entire season without one. Not that I mind the concept of the Yield per se, but it’s never used effectively.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/22 "2006-11-13T14:34:50Z")

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Apparently David & Mary said in a post-elimination interview that there was an unused Yield in Vietnam. So apparently they haven’t gotten rid of it entirely. Phooey.

Team Alabama and Rob & Kimberly are certainly starting to feel the effects of killer fatigue, aren’t they? Not that I blame them – a friend elsewhere on line looked up the flights from Madagascar to Helsinki, and that little trip that took about 10 seconds on TV took the racers 29 hours. That is a long-ass trip! After 29 hours on airplanes, I’m surprised _anybody_ could function.

The tasks this season have been so physical. The mud looked completely exhausting, whichever option you took. And the cabbies looked considerably less than thrilled to have the teams climbing into their clean cabs covered with muck, didn’t they? Hopefully they at least had somewhere to rinse or wipe the worst of it off – if they were willing to take the time.

> [@Otto](#):
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> There have been instances where legs were changed around a bit (one I recall was because they country they ended up in had strict laws against public begging so they had to make it elimination instead of an NEL)

Actually, that was in Hungary, and they made it a TBC instead of an NEL because of the anti-begging laws. There have been other last-minute route changes, too – the Dubai leg a couple of seasons ago was a last-minute addition because of bombings in Turkey, apparently, where they were originally supposed to go. So they do make changes if required, but I’m sure they have fallback plans in place for just about anything. Including the teams making a much earlier flight than expected.

My favorite moment of the whole show? Phil standing carefully in the mud in his waders, with a look on his face as that guy jumped in beside him that said, “Oh, no, no mud gets splashed on THIS face!”

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/23 "2006-11-13T15:13:04Z")

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[QUOTE=lorene]  
What was her response? I was putting my son to bed at that point.

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She turned toward him and asked, “Are you saying I’m fat?”

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/24 "2006-11-13T16:52:32Z")

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I loved the Cho boys wearing Mary and David’s “Friends in low places” T-shirts. And the Chos look so much better in them. Yum. I still can’t remember which is which, but it doesn’t matter. Bama is about as clueless as it gets. They disliek the BQs for using their natural assets, but think it’s fine to jump a queue because “It’s a race”. I had to laugh at the Tyler (or whichever model) sharing his beauty products with the BQs. Don’t like Rob. I can’t think of a singe Rob reality show competitor I have liked, for that matter.

GO CHO BOYS!!!

StG

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**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/25 "2006-11-13T17:19:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Lord, I hope not. I’ve been perfectly content to go the entire season without one. Not that I mind the concept of the Yield per se, but it’s never used effectively.  
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Part of the reason I speculate is that one of the Insider Videos from lask week has Tyler & James and Rob & Kimberly (during the FF) discussing who’s the biggest threat to win (and thus who they’d prefer to Yield), the Chos or the Beauty Queens. Which is one of the two correct strategic uses of the Yield, so perhaps it _will_ be used effectively.

Complete Speculation: From the demeanor of Tyler & James and Rob & Kimberly and Dustin & Kandice during the post-leg interviews, I infer none of these three teams were eliminated. The possibility of an upcoming Yield makes me wonder if Tyler & James end up Yielding the Chos and getting them eliminated.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/26 "2006-11-13T17:20:15Z")

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Are the models out? Why aren’t they described as a couple? Or is their love for one another blossoming right before our eyes?

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**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/27 "2006-11-13T17:26:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Mama Tiger]  
My favorite moment of the whole show? Phil standing carefully in the mud in his waders, with a look on his face as that guy jumped in beside him that said, “Oh, no, no mud gets splashed on THIS face!”  
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For those of you who follow Phil’s sartorial choices, [here’s](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race10/shows/ep09/phil/photos/?id=5) wonderful shot of him in his waders, eyebrow pop and all.

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/28 "2006-11-13T18:17:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
Are the models out? Why aren’t they described as a couple? Or is their love for one another blossoming right before our eyes?  
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They’re former drug and rehab buddies, and are ostensibly not gay. Maybe they’re in the closet, but going through the rehab process probably makes them closer than the average hetero “best friends” pairing.

Then again, after Eric & Jeremy took careful time out of each leg to prove their hetero-ness last year, any “normal” male/male friend pairing might seem suspiciously gay in comparison.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/29 "2006-11-13T18:19:39Z")

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[QUOTE=fiddlesticks]  
Then again, after Eric & Jeremy took careful time out of each leg to prove their hetero-ness last year, any “normal” male/male friend pairing might seem suspiciously gay in comparison.  
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Actually, it was the totally gratuitous horndogginess of E&J that made some of us suspect they were living in a quite tastefully decorated clothing-storage niche…

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/30 "2006-11-13T18:27:03Z")

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And of course we got our requisite Ugly American comments. Upon finding out that Finland was their destination, I \*think \*it was Kimberly who asked, “Don’t they wear wooden shoes?”

Not so bad, but one of the Barbies kept referring to Helsinki as “Helinski.”

::cringe::

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/31 "2006-11-13T18:32:38Z")

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> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> Are the models out? Why aren’t they described as a couple? Or is their love for one another blossoming right before our eyes?

I don’t think their man-love is blosoming; it’s clearly been in bloom for a while. Gay or straight they’re definitely a couple.

[QUOTE=PoorYorick]  
And of course we got our requisite Ugly American comments. Upon finding out that Finland was their destination, I \*think \*it was Kimberly who asked, “Don’t they wear wooden shoes?”  
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Pretty sure that was one of the BQs, since my internal monolgue immediately snarked, “yeah they do, but only the Muslims while they’re worshipping Buddha.”

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/32 "2006-11-13T18:36:03Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Actually, it was the totally gratuitous horndogginess of E&J that made some of us suspect they were living in a quite tastefully decorated clothing-storage niche…  
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Well that and the half-naked frolic photos with the dirty filthy hippies.

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**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/33 "2006-11-13T18:41:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
Are the models out? Why aren’t they described as a couple? Or is their love for one another blossoming right before our eyes?  
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I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks they’re gay. I’ve been waiting for someone to mention it so I wouldn’t be the fitst. It’s so obvious, but I hope it wasn’t Tyler’s use of beauty products that makes you think they are. That’s typical pretty boy behavior, gay or straight.

Personally, I think they are nolonger involved intamately. If they are, they’re doing a good job of covering it up. Although, one of them did let a " c’mon baby" slip during a challenge. Then, a couple of weeks ago during an interview, Tyler (I think) was describing their different personalities and how it’s been the same during their entire relationship, then he quickly said “friendship”, although it’s perfectly acceptable to call a friendship a relationship.

Plus, drug adicts living on the street will do anything for money. I’m not saying it will turn you gay indefinately, but it’s not likely to make you be best friends with someone either.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/34 "2006-11-13T19:36:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Batsinma Belfry]  
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks they’re gay. I’ve been waiting for someone to mention it so I wouldn’t be the fitst. It’s so obvious, but I hope it wasn’t Tyler’s use of beauty products that makes you think they are. That’s typical pretty boy behavior, gay or straight.  
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No. It’s more their interviews, where they talk about their roles in the relationship. Both the terms that they use and the manner that they talk about their roles and expectations for one another suggest something more than a heterosexual relationship. I’m not sure I can see being in drug rehab together as a better explanation.

But then, during the mud obstacle course, when one hopped on the other’s back and started smacking him in the ass, I felt compelled to ask. I figured that I’d just missed something somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/35 "2006-11-13T20:04:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Batsinma Belfry]  
Plus, drug adicts living on the street will do anything for money. I’m not saying it will turn you gay indefinately, but it’s not likely to make you be best friends with someone either.  
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Nothing will “turn you gay,” indefinitely or otherwise. Even if they sucked cock for drug money it doesn’t speak to their sexual orientation.

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**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/36 "2006-11-13T22:09:27Z")

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I know about sexual orientation and how it’s something we’re born with. But “sucking cock” while under the influence of drugs, could make you realize what your true orientation is.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-12-spoilers-possible/380177/37 "2006-11-14T02:16:27Z")

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Phil in waders, eh? What a **weenie**! Come on, Phil, get down an’ dirty with those teams, I dare you!!!

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