# The Amazing Race 11/20/15 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 21, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152 "2015-11-21T02:19:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/21 "2015-11-23T07:50:13Z")
The speed bump was comically punitive, but it’s on the right track. Future speed bumps should be that both team members must complete the task, but they should be able to do it at the same time, and (of course) aren’t allowed to help each other. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/22 "2015-11-23T11:35:59Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I’m surprised at how little there is on commentary about the ugliness that the cheerleaders displayed this episode. I suppose I could accept the lies as ‘part of the game’ but the indignation they displayed regarding other racers’ scheming and ‘telling the truth’ was bizarre. Their response to seeing that the anchors u-turned the boys was especially hypocritical. > > Ugly on the inside indeed. I think I didn’t comment because my expectations of them are already so low that it barely registered. Well, also, I forgot. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/23 "2015-11-23T12:32:08Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The speed bump was comically punitive, but it’s on the right track. Future speed bumps should be that both team members must complete the task, but they should be able to do it at the same time, and (of course) aren’t allowed to help each other. This is what I was thinking, having both team members do the roadblock is fine, but at the same time. This at least gives the team a chance to get back in to it. At least it wasn’t some needle in a haystack type challenge, that could have been really bad. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/24 "2015-11-23T13:28:52Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Yes! I thought the same thing, that it was just one guy getting “shaved” for hours and hours. So very Fellini. > > I wonder if there was some kind of mix up and the original greeter ran off with Phil’s luggage and the equipment for the speed bump, so they just bought fill the first clean shirt they could find and then grabbed some rando guy to fill in. Wasn’t there a Pit Stop a few seasons back where the greeter was raking leaves or dirt in between arrivals? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Was it Logan who said, “I’m a Catholic and he’s a Christian”? That was the reporters, when they got the blessing and forehead paint at the streetside Hanuman temple - she said she was a Christian, and he’s Catholic. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/25 "2015-11-23T15:10:12Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > This is what I was thinking, having both team members do the roadblock is fine, but at the same time. This at least gives the team a chance to get back in to it. At least it wasn’t some needle in a haystack type challenge, that could have been really bad. If you’re going to have a Speed Bump where both team members have to do the Roadblock in series rather than in parallel, then maybe add a rule that the team with the Speed Bump can’t be U-turned. At least give them a fighting chance. Or, maybe just don’t have a U-turn on the leg right after a NEL and then it’s not an issue ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/26 "2015-11-23T16:38:12Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > That was the reporters, when they got the blessing and forehead paint at the streetside Hanuman temple - she said she was a Christian, and he’s Catholic. Huh. I was pretty sure that was Logan, but now I’m not so sure. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/27 "2015-11-23T16:45:38Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Huh. I was pretty sure that was Logan, but now I’m not so sure. I just watched the scene online, I’m extremely sure. Kelsey: “I’m Christian, and Joey’s Catholic. I’ve never had a blessing like that, but when you get to experience a different culture, it’s special. I was honored to be a part of it.” When Logan and Chris arrived, all they said was “Thank you.” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/28 "2015-11-23T18:05:16Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I just watched the scene online, I’m extremely sure. > > Kelsey: “I’m Christian, and Joey’s Catholic. I’ve never had a blessing like that, but when you get to experience a different culture, it’s special. I was honored to be a part of it.” > > When Logan and Chris arrived, all they said was “Thank you.” Kelsey’s phraseology struck me oddly (being raised Catholic myself), but I can’t argue with her appreciation of the moment. There are 2 ways to parse her statement: (1) I’m non-denominational Christian, and Joey is a denominational Christian, specifically, Catholic. (2) I’m a Christian, and Joey is a whore-of-Babylon idol-worshiping papist. I’ll charitably go with the former. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/29 "2015-11-23T19:20:28Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > What was up with Phil’s blouse tonight? I dunno, but the laminated dog-turd necklace he’s wearing has to go. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/30 "2015-11-24T01:55:55Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I dunno, but the laminated dog-turd necklace he’s wearing has to go. Oh, God. I’m never going to be able to look at that as not-poop again. ---
**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/31 "2015-11-24T02:11:14Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I dunno, but the laminated dog-turd necklace he’s wearing has to go. Wow, how amazingly culturally sensitive of you. [Hei matau - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hei_matau) ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/32 "2015-11-24T03:19:08Z")
I’ve heard that phraseology many times. Catholic is Roman Catholic. Christian is any of the other flavors of Christianity. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/33 "2015-11-24T03:20:46Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I’ve heard that phraseology many times. Catholic is Roman Catholic. Christian is any of the other flavors of Christianity. Except that Catholics are Christian. It’s like saying “I’m a fruit, and he’s an apple”. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/34 "2015-11-24T04:33:14Z")
> [@araminty](#): > > Wow, how amazingly culturally sensitive of you. [Hei matau - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hei_matau) :rolleyes: Wow, what a boring offenderatti post. Most of Phil’s necklaces have an Aussie or New Zealand theme and don’t look like a laminated dog turd. For that matter, the picture you linked to doesn’t look like a laminated dog turd either. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/35 "2015-11-24T05:08:51Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Kelsey’s phraseology struck me oddly (being raised Catholic myself), but I can’t argue with her appreciation of the moment. There are 2 ways to parse her statement: > > (1) I’m non-denominational Christian, and Joey is a denominational Christian, specifically, Catholic. > > (2) I’m a Christian, and Joey is a whore-of-Babylon idol-worshiping papist. > > I’ll charitably go with the former. I felt like she was saying the first one. She’s generic Christian and he is specifically Catholic. If she had been say, Baptist, she would have said, I am Baptist and Joey is a Catholic. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/36 "2015-11-24T05:11:40Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Except that Catholics are Christian. It’s like saying “I’m a fruit, and he’s an apple”. Right, that is what she was saying. She falls into the realm of fruit, but undefined. He is specifically an apple. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152/37 "2015-11-24T14:02:12Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Except that Catholics are Christian. It’s like saying “I’m a fruit, and he’s an apple”. But as your previous post shows, there are non-Catholic Christians who would never refer to Catholics as “Christian”. Not that I’d expect one to marry a Catholic, so that’s probably not the case here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-20-15/738152.md?page=1)