# The Amazing Race 11/25/07 - "Let's Name Our Chicken Phil" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 25, 2007, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747 "2007-11-25T23:40:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/41 "2007-11-26T16:32:14Z")
[QUOTE=zut] Still and all, if you’re gonna force teams to Carry Some Random Object For No Particular Reason for the whole leg, a Live Chicken is one of the best things I can think of, because you kind of have to be careful with it (otherwise, it’s a Dead Chicken), _and_ it creates poop. [/QUOTE] Oh, yeah, a live chicken is _ **much** _ better than the Roaming Gnome, but I was waiting for someone to start commenting (or screeching) that the chicken pooped or peed on them. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/42 "2007-11-26T16:53:19Z")
[QUOTE=zut] Still and all, if you’re gonna force teams to Carry Some Random Object For No Particular Reason for the whole leg, a Live Chicken is one of the best things I can think of, because you kind of have to be careful with it (otherwise, it’s a Dead Chicken), _and_ it creates poop. [/QUOTE] AFAIK the clue just said that they had to have the chicken with them to check in, not that the chicken had to be alive. Once those chickens went in the bags I don’t recall hearing another peep out of the chickens. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/43 "2007-11-26T17:19:38Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] AFAIK the clue just said that they had to have the chicken with them to check in, not that the chicken had to be alive. Once those chickens went in the bags I don’t recall hearing another peep out of the chickens. [/QUOTE] Those were some of the most docile animals to ever appear on The Amazing Race. I never heard a chicken as much as cluck once in the bag, and the baby goats looked like they had been fed a breakfast of Olde English 800 and quaaludes. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/44 "2007-11-26T18:01:02Z")
I wonder if next week’s show will start with a shot of all the racers sitting around enjoying a chicken dinner. Dang…the Goths are actually growing on me. And as noticed above…not only did someone speak Spanish, he used our favorite Shmyrna taxi instruction: “Rapido!” ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/45 "2007-11-26T18:40:04Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] And as noticed above…not only did someone speak Spanish, he used our favorite Shmyrna taxi instruction: “Rapido!” [/QUOTE] That was Jason (one-half of our eliminated team this episode), and from the look on his face when he said it, he was joking. He KNEW what he was doing, you could tell. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/46 "2007-11-26T19:34:38Z")
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane] Those were some of the most docile animals to ever appear on The Amazing Race. I never heard a chicken as much as cluck once in the bag, and the baby goats looked like they had been fed a breakfast of Olde English 800 and quaaludes. [/QUOTE] Yes, [this little guy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYuX1rFOMvM) would have been much more fun. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/47 "2007-11-26T23:25:49Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] That was Jason (one-half of our eliminated team this episode), and from the look on his face when he said it, he was joking. He KNEW what he was doing, you could tell. [/QUOTE] Plus they are Puerto Rican, right? They could have just been saying it to each other as an in-joke. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/48 "2007-11-26T23:50:41Z")
[QUOTE=Sapo] Plus they are Puerto Rican, right? They could have just been saying it to each other as an in-joke. [/QUOTE] She’s Puerto Rican. I don’t think he is. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/49 "2007-11-27T00:07:14Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] Yes, [this little guy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYuX1rFOMvM) would have been much more fun. [/QUOTE] That made me laugh out loud… ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/50 "2007-11-27T04:39:10Z")
Is this show available to watch anywhere online? Goddamn football pushed it back a whole hour so that when the show finally did start, my DVR was already set to record on two separate channels and since I wasn’t home I couldn’t switch over to CBS. Even though I had told it to record an extra hour. ---
**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/51 "2007-11-27T14:53:21Z")
I still haven’t seen the last few 10 minutes or so of the show, but it was obvious to me which team would get eliminated. Good show, and I like the new U-turn aspect. I think that’s one of the suggestions that was talked about here during the last season actually. It was nice to see a team use an option like this strategically, instead of a panic decision. It doesn’t matter if you see a team coming up right behind you, you want to U-turn/Yield the team that is in **last** place. That way they’re even more likely to get knocked out of the competition. I think in one of the seasons they showed teams putting their pictures someplace else when they reached the Yield. Maybe they move them to another box or something? I know we’ve talked about this before. But with 10 seasons, there are way too many threads to read through to find it. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/52 "2007-11-27T14:57:50Z")
**Atrael** - I’d disagree about always using the U Turn on the last place team. If the last place team is quite far behind, and you’re third from last, it would be better to use it on the team right behind you. You’re going to gain a time advantage by being to the mat first, so you leave that much earlier than whoever ended last. If the last place team is an hour behind you and the 2nd to the last place is three minutes behind, it’s better to gain that time advantage on the next leg. StG ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/53 "2007-11-27T15:29:37Z")
[QUOTE=Atrael] Good show, and I like the new U-turn aspect. I think that’s one of the suggestions that was talked about here during the last season actually. [/QUOTE] I suggested a three-choice Detour that required each partner to complete one of the choices separately, which I still think would be a great idea for at least the final leg. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/54 "2007-11-27T16:43:44Z")
[QUOTE=Atrael] I still haven’t seen the last few 10 minutes or so of the show, but it was obvious to me which team would get eliminated. Good show, and I like the new U-turn aspect. I think that’s one of the suggestions that was talked about here during the last season actually. It was nice to see a team use an option like this strategically, instead of a panic decision. It doesn’t matter if you see a team coming up right behind you, you want to U-turn/Yield the team that is in **last** place. That way they’re even more likely to get knocked out of the competition. I think in one of the seasons they showed teams putting their pictures someplace else when they reached the Yield. Maybe they move them to another box or something? I know we’ve talked about this before. But with 10 seasons, there are way too many threads to read through to find it. [/QUOTE] I can’t remember where I read it, but I think the teams are supposed to take their picture out themselves when they get to the u-turn (well, to the Yield, I assume it is the same for a U-turn). ---
**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/55 "2007-11-27T18:24:45Z")
[QUOTE=StGermain] **Atrael** - I’d disagree about always using the U Turn on the last place team. If the last place team is quite far behind, and you’re third from last, it would be better to use it on the team right behind you. You’re going to gain a time advantage by being to the mat first, so you leave that much earlier than whoever ended last. If the last place team is an hour behind you and the 2nd to the last place is three minutes behind, it’s better to gain that time advantage on the next leg. StG [/QUOTE] You’re right. Depending on **how far** the last team is behind you, and what team that is, it’ll be a different call. For example if the team behind you is a fairly good racing team that just had bad luck at the airport or something but you know is good at doing tasks, then Yielding (or U-turning) them may or may not have any advantage aside from pissing them off. On the other hand if as you say the last place team is **way way** behind you, then U-turning (or Yielding) them is just a waste since they wouldn’t have caught up anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/56 "2007-12-01T18:47:20Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] I can’t remember where I read it, but I think the teams are supposed to take their picture out themselves when they get to the u-turn (well, to the Yield, I assume it is the same for a U-turn). [/QUOTE] I finally got around to watching this episode and that’s exactly what Azaria did when they got to the U-Turn, so I’d assume all the teams did it. And shit man, who knew Kent was a ninja? ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/57 "2007-12-03T04:21:40Z")
Not a single recap? Damn… I’m so far behind in my watching this week that I only realized yesterday the missus had mis-taped this ep… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/58 "2007-12-03T16:59:28Z")
[www.televisionwithoutpity.com](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com) best place for recaps. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/59 "2007-12-04T03:14:07Z")
Was there no new episode this week? I was away, and tried to tape it, but got some sappy Hallmark movie instead. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747/60 "2007-12-04T03:17:37Z")
[QUOTE=BiblioCat] Was there no new episode this week? I was away, and tried to tape it, but got some sappy Hallmark movie instead. [/QUOTE] There was a new one, regular time … [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=446334) is the thread discussing it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-25-07-lets-name-our-chicken-phil/427747.md?page=2)