# The Amazing Race 12.19 - All Or Nothing **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 19, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703 "2014-12-19T22:40:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/1 "2014-12-19T22:40:51Z")
This is it! Who will win? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/2 "2014-12-19T22:46:22Z")
I think the Candy Scientists might actually have a chance here. The Wrestlers make mistakes but kill the physical tasks The Dentists are still over confident, and they make mistakes, too, tho not as often as eam Wrestle Mania. One slip is all it needs for this leg. Soul Surfers have a real shot, and I think I lean to them taking home the million If the tasks aren’t totally physical, tho, Team Candy Scientists might pull out an upset. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/3 "2014-12-19T22:52:26Z")
From Titan TV’s guide: “One team will face an elimination that leaves them shocked.” Guesses? Dentists, maybe… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/4 "2014-12-20T00:17:56Z")
Less than an hour before show, anyone else with predictions? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/5 "2014-12-20T00:37:41Z")
Rooting for Anyone but the Dentists. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/6 "2014-12-20T01:25:56Z")
No longer distracted by Bethany’s arm stump, I find myself wishing she had a more supportive bra. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/7 "2014-12-20T01:35:12Z")
When the wrestlers were watching the stunt at the warehouse, I knew they were toast. It really should have been Phil jumping out of the window to give them the news. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/8 "2014-12-20T01:37:15Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > It really should have been Phil jumping out of the window to give them the news. I just said the exact same thing. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/9 "2014-12-20T01:57:22Z")
Cool. Now … Previews! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/10 "2014-12-20T02:10:52Z")
The Amazing Match. com Race! ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/11 "2014-12-20T02:21:30Z")
You Don’t Have to be Lonely, at Amazing Race dot com. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/12 "2014-12-20T02:30:15Z")
At the start of the leg on the airplane, the wrestlers said “We’ve won wrestling championships, so it would be great to win…” and then while they were finishing with “…The Amazing Race” I was saying for them “…an actual competition.” Bethany sure is bouncy. For me, the Candy Scientists winning is almost as big of a letdown as the Beekmans. They were the one team I didn’t want to see win. Not a fan of this entire final leg, actually. Of the three activities, two were on rails. The only activity that mattered, the big “think of all the legs” task, was a solo task. Huh? That’s always a team task. Boooooo. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/13 "2014-12-20T02:37:52Z")
Eh. I’m happy with the scientists. I would have been fine with the surfers. Anyone but the goddamn freaking arrogant freaking dentists. I haven’t been able to stand either of them since Leg 2, at least. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/14 "2014-12-20T02:41:16Z")
Jim the Chew Man looked like he wanted to punch something. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/15 "2014-12-20T02:58:08Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Not a fan of this entire final leg, actually. Of the three activities, two were on rails. The only activity that mattered, the big “think of all the legs” task, was a solo task. Huh? That’s always a team task. Boooooo. For the official Road Blocks, yes, but navigating around L.A. was the biggest factor in this leg. The Wrestlers headed for San Diego, or something. The Dentists left City Hall just before the Scientists, but the Scientists were getting directions so they got to the warehouse first. I like that that’s a valuable Race skill, although I also understand the reason for using taxis at the very end. The Scientists had a couple head-scratching moments, but being smart about directions and finding their way around kept them in it. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/16 "2014-12-20T03:36:47Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > For the official Road Blocks, yes, but navigating around L.A. was the biggest factor in this leg. The Wrestlers headed for San Diego, or something. The Dentists left City Hall just before the Scientists, but the Scientists were getting directions so they got to the warehouse first. I like that that’s a valuable Race skill, although I also understand the reason for using taxis at the very end. The difference in arrival time at the containers was so close together as to be irrelevant, meaning the aggregate travel time discrepancies among the top three teams was negligible. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/17 "2014-12-20T03:42:40Z")
Didn’t the Scientists have navigation problems early in the race? Like in Scotland, London and Morocco? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/18 "2014-12-20T04:07:13Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The difference in arrival time at the containers was so close together as to be irrelevant, meaning the aggregate travel time discrepancies among the top three teams was negligible. Yes, but that’s with the Scientists’ good navigation. Maya (I think) balked a couple times on the practice jump, they headed for the Coast Guard boats and had to come back to take off the stunt gear, they were probably slower on the swimming task, and Maya had to stop to put her shoes on after they got back to shore.[sup]\*[/sup] Those things add up. If they hadn’t navigated better than the other teams, they’d have been somewhat behind at starting the container task. Considering how close they looked at the end of that task, I think navigating was the deciding factor for the leg. - Seriously, what was up with that. While you’re killing time on the boat you should get prepped so you’re ready to go when you get back to the dock. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/19 "2014-12-20T04:35:37Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Considering how close they looked at the end of that task, I think navigating was the deciding factor for the leg. The feeling I got is that the scientists crossed the finish line a solid 20 minutes ahead of the dentists, who themselves were at least a half hour ahead of the surfers. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703/20 "2014-12-20T04:51:43Z")
Put it another way: Remove all of the navigation/wardrobe errors and the final order doesn’t change. It actually gets further apart, most likely. Betheny was a mortal lock for 3rd place on that final challenge, and we heard the dentists (barely ahead of the scientists) say they were 10 minutes behind the surfers in the cab after leaving the coast guard task on the way to the containers. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-19-all-or-nothing/707703.md?page=2)