# The Amazing Race 12/21 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 20, 2004, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713 "2004-12-20T00:50:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/1 "2004-12-20T00:50:25Z")
Is everybody aware that The Amazing Race is going to be on an hour earlier this Tuesday? It will be a new episode (naturally!) and will air at 8pm eastern time, 7pm central. Re-set your VCRs, folks! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/2 "2004-12-20T01:08:00Z")
Thanks! I would have missed it! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/3 "2004-12-20T01:42:09Z")
From the previews: The next leg is in Hungary, where a detour involves medieval cannons and a roadblock involves bungee shots. The teams have to drive Trabants (while still in eastern Germany, presumably), and Lolo and Bobo’s breaks down. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/4 "2004-12-20T04:02:34Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > From the previews: The next leg is in Hungary, where a detour involves medieval cannons and a roadblock involves bungee shots. The teams have to drive Trabants (while still in eastern Germany, presumably), and Lolo and Bobo’s breaks down. Ummmm, is a Trabant a car? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/5 "2004-12-20T04:53:47Z")
[Trabant](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=trabant&btnG=Google+Search) ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/6 "2004-12-20T05:14:15Z")
> [@annieclaus](#): > > Ummmm, is a Trabant a car? That depends on what your definition of ‘car’ is. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/7 "2004-12-20T13:26:23Z")
While we’re all twiddling thumbs waiting for the show, does anyone know how to get into one of the last episode parties with the participants? I think someone on the board went to one at MSG last season… ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/8 "2004-12-20T13:39:39Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > That depends on what your definition of ‘car’ is. Thanks to Terminus Est for the link. I should have looked it up myself but was too enervated by the Green Bay Packers’ hideous home loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Sigh! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/9 "2004-12-21T04:41:23Z")
From the official CBS _Amazing Race_ newsletter: > [@](#): > > While riding in a taxi, a Team member irritates the driver to the point of getting the pair kicked out. Hmm, any guesses as to who that might be? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/10 "2004-12-21T12:17:34Z")
If it’s who I _think_ it might be, I’m hoping that the Amazing Copyeditor left out the words, “…and run over.” ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/11 "2004-12-21T13:17:56Z")
> [@zut](#): > > If it’s who I _think_ it might be, I’m hoping that the Amazing Copyeditor left out the words, “…and run over.” See, now, I was thinking it was more like “… and one member repeatedly kicked in the head.” Because I understand some people in that area of Europe still have their old-fashioned jackboots. So it would hurt. A lot. Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/12 "2004-12-21T18:31:00Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > While we’re all twiddling thumbs waiting for the show, does anyone know how to get into one of the last episode parties with the participants? I think someone on the board went to one at MSG last season… I think what you’re looking for is [TARcon](http://www.tarflies.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12). I think they’re waiting for CBS to finalize the date of this season’s finale to organize the next one, TARcon 6. ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/13 "2004-12-21T18:52:18Z")
Does anyone else find the title of this episode hilarious? Spoiler boxed, just in case… _They Should Probably Have Some Counseling_, Episode #606. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/14 "2004-12-21T18:59:33Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > I think what you’re looking for is [TARcon](http://www.tarflies.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12). I think they’re waiting for CBS to finalize the date of this season’s finale to organize the next one, TARcon 6. Thankee kindly. There are a couple articles about the show in Tuesday’s USA Today and the NY Post. With regards to \* producers say they talked to the mobile anus before this leg was taped because his behaviour was getting ridiculous, and they talked to him again afterwards. Apparently he calms down for the rest of the race. :rolleyes: And as for Lori and Bolo they should just pick up the damn car when the engine breaks down! ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/15 "2004-12-21T20:05:06Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > producers say they talked to the mobile anus before this leg was taped because his behaviour was getting ridiculous, and they talked to him again afterwards. Apparently he calms down for the rest of the race. :rolleyes: If that’s the case. I hope they filmed it. Then again, by your comment, that would mean that they’re also gonna be around for awhile. Ohh, fiddlesticks on that. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/16 "2004-12-21T20:27:35Z")
[The NY Post article](http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/36884.htm): > [@](#): > > “I would have never believed anything could happen like this,” says van Munster. "I had warned him over and over again, but if he doesn’t want to listen, there’s nothing I can do about it. > > “I told him the camera can be used in many ways — it’s a dangerous instrument and there comes a point where you can’t change [what it sees] — I’ve been very fair with him.” > > Because the Bakers have not yet been eliminated from the series, fans of the show **will find out tonight how low the husband might stoop**. > > “I had a very firm talk with him that night,” van Munster says. “But he keeps on being Jonathan, although there’s no more pushing and shoving, I can tell you that.” Bolding added. Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/17 "2004-12-21T23:56:56Z")
Hey, over on TARflies, they have what proport to be real, honest-to-gosh copies of [clues and detours](http://www.tarflies.com/article.php?_f=detail&id=420&s_id=6&ep_id=174). If these are legit, my interest in the race just declined by like 80-90%. Giving 2 hour bonuses for “throwing a fit at the welcome mat”? Telling Racers to mispronounce words?? Can anyone vouch for this site? Any information on whether the images are legit or just spoofs? Thanks! Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2004, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/18 "2004-12-22T00:15:31Z")
Is the site legit? Probably. Is the article legit? Could be, but take a look at some of the other articles written by “Steve & Dave”: [“60 Minutes” Interview of Avi/Joe](http://www.tarflies.com/article.php?_f=detail&id=374&s_id=6&ep_id=143) [Car And Driver Interview With Meredith and Maria](http://www.tarflies.com/article.php?_f=detail&id=385&s_id=6&ep_id=171) [IKEA® Catalog Interview with Lena and Kristy](http://www.tarflies.com/article.php?_f=detail&id=404&s_id=6&ep_id=172) Hmmm, there seems to be a draft in here. ---
**Author:** ![ummm.yeahh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ummm.yeahh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ummm.yeahh)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/19 "2004-12-22T01:52:51Z")
What’s with the internet cafe closing for HOURS??? What were the producers thinking?? Talk about taking the suspense out of it. ---
**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713/20 "2004-12-22T01:55:20Z")
Yet another opportunity for bunching. But more importantly “to be continued”?? “To be continued”?? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-12-21/280713.md?page=2)