# The Amazing Race 21 premier (9/30) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 29, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246 "2012-09-29T18:28:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246/61 "2012-10-03T15:21:46Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Many would say that you are able to be in a real relationship without being married or related. I was with my wife for many years before we tied the not, so we were technically “dating” but we certainly had a real relationship. I probably phrased that hastily and indelicately. Of course you can be in a serious relationship without legal or blood ties…but I think the producers are going more and more to stunt casting, or looking for potential drama within the team. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246/62 "2012-10-03T16:10:53Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > Well, last year we had Brendon & Rachel who hooked up only for race purposes. Not sure if any of this year’s dating couples have such a shallow history… Huh? Brendon and Rachel (as annoying as they are to me) have been dating on and off for several years now. They met on Big Brother 12 and have been pretty much attached since then. They did not just hook up for the race. Now, Rebecca and Adam, from TAR 6, were pretty much just hooked up for the race. She actually tried to get on the race before that season, with someone she was really dating, but got turned down. She figured it was because the guy she was dating was pretty boring, so she got together with Adam (and, to be honest, I don’t know for sure that she made him think she was really into him or if it was a mutual business deal), who made good drama by being a whiney mama’s-boy, complementing her uberbitch act. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246/63 "2012-10-03T16:23:10Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Huh? Brendon and Rachel (as annoying as they are to me) have been dating on and off for several years now. They met on Big Brother 12 and have been pretty much attached since then. They did not just hook up for the race. > > Now, Rebecca and Adam, from TAR 6, were pretty much just hooked up for the race. She actually tried to get on the race before that season, with someone she was really dating, but got turned down. She figured it was because the guy she was dating was pretty boring, so she got together with Adam (and, to be honest, I don’t know for sure that she made him think she was really into him or if it was a mutual business deal), who made good drama by being a whiney mama’s-boy, complementing her uberbitch act. I was thinking of Vanessa & Ralph from last year. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246/64 "2012-10-03T16:48:47Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > I was thinking of Vanessa & Ralph from last year. Ah…although I had no idea they were a mock couple. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246/65 "2012-10-03T19:37:07Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Ah…although I had no idea they were a mock couple. Me neither. Was this revealed at some point? I thought they were both divorcees who were dating, seemed to get along fairly well except for the walk up the hill to the castle, when they swore their hate for one another. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246/66 "2012-10-03T20:24:51Z")
Hmm, well they are a local team (San Antonio) and all the newspaper articles described Ralph as Vanessa’s “ex-beau” from the beginning. So they did date, signed up for Amazing Race, but where “just friends” by the time the race came around. As I remember it, anyhow… So anyhow, I guess a “prior relationship” still falls in the spirit of the Amazing Race rules, but they weren’t the usual “trying to make it work again” couple. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246/67 "2012-10-03T20:38:02Z")
Maybe they got along so well because they knew they weren’t going to be tied together for life. StG ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246/68 "2012-10-04T01:52:21Z")
I got the impression they were cast while still a couple but had broken up between then and when the race started. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-21-premier-9-30/636246.md?page=3)