# The Amazing Race 3/3/13 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996 "2013-03-04T14:53:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sir\_viks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sir\_viks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sir_viks)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/21 "2013-03-04T19:13:31Z")
> [@zut](#): > > _Max and Katie_ (Douchy newlyweds) (holding steady) - So… although they’re both kind of annoying douches, neither seems to realize that the _other_ is, in fact, an annoying douche. If that makes sense. No, that makes PERFECT sense. Very well put. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/22 "2013-03-04T22:37:47Z")
Loved the Dog challenge! Also wanted to give the dog at the check in mat a giant hug. Maybe I am off base but I felt the Father son team were being selfish for continuing after this leg. They won the leg, proved they weren’t quitters. By staying in all they are doing is guaranteeing no one but them gets eliminated the end of the actual leg at the next pit stop. The only reason they were in this one was the express pass. The son can keep doing teh Roadblocks for now but they will get hosed at the next Detour. Maybe selfish isn’t the right word but it seems…I don’t know self indulgent or something because basically it removes an opportunity to get rid of a team that has a chance at winning. I get wanting to stay in this time but anything else seems just unfair to the other teams somehow. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/23 "2013-03-04T22:50:38Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > The father of the father and son team is really challenging my perceptions of myself. I like to think I’m empathetic. I also have no problem with guys crying. I also can take his perspective a bit and understand how someone might feel after having survived the threat of cancer both to oneself and one’s child, who wants to go on a great adventure with his son, and who is again challenged by an injury that calls up a sense of being fragile and vulnerable. > > But my initial reaction to the clips they’ve been showing of the guy is “Jesus, stop weeping!” My husband and I keep talking about that, too. Aw, jeez—are you crying _again_??! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/24 "2013-03-04T23:43:11Z")
More of this alliance crap? If I wanted to watch a bunch of people trying to figure out the perfect time to stab each other in the back, I’d watch _Survivor_. > [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > The father of the father and son team is really challenging my perceptions of myself. I like to think I’m empathetic. I also have no problem with guys crying. I also can take his perspective a bit and understand how someone might feel after having survived the threat of cancer both to oneself and one’s child, who wants to go on a great adventure with his son, and who is again challenged by an injury that calls up a sense of being fragile and vulnerable. Wait, they both had cancer? I must have missed that part. Good job catching that. > [@lorene](#): > > Yeah, I kept trying to get in here and edit to add that I didn’t mean to sound smug or snippy—I’m doing a very bad job of posting here while also doing something at work and I didn’t give enough time to my post. 🙂 We haven’t crossed paths in a while. Hope you’re doing well these days. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/25 "2013-03-04T23:59:29Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Maybe I am off base but I felt the Father son team were being selfish for continuing after this leg. They won the leg, proved they weren’t quitters. I disagree with this entirely. My motto is “Never, ever leave the race until Phil kicks you out.” If they left now, barring the show forcibly telling them they can’t continue, they would be quitters in my book. I’m already annoyed enough with the “take the penalty” teams from the first episode. I admire the father/son team for continuing until they can’t continue any more. Who knows what will happen. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/26 "2013-03-05T00:06:29Z")
By the way, was that the Amazing Dad greeting them at the mat? ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/27 "2013-03-05T00:19:19Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > By the way, was that the Amazing Dad greeting them at the mat? I don’t think it was. Here’s [Phil’s Dad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N30km7rg-tQ) on the mat in the 13th season…can’t find any screencaps of last night though, but going by memory that wasn’t the guy with the Tim the Dog. But perhaps once was enough, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/28 "2013-03-05T01:11:19Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > By the way, was that the Amazing Dad greeting them at the mat? I guess to us Americans, all New Zealanders look alike. (I wondered if it was TAD as well). As for your aside—yeah, I’m overall ok. You? ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/29 "2013-03-05T01:14:58Z")
[Phil and his dad, season 13](http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/phil-keoghan/photos/195278/76287) [Phil and the greeter, last night](http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/photos/1000229/season-22-episode-3/35872/) [Bonus: Phil and Richard Simmons](http://www.facebook.com/pages/Phil-Keoghan/182810645084635?group_id=0#!/photo.php?fbid=197758260256540&set=pb.182810645084635.-2207520000.1362446045&type=3&theater) (always funny) ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/30 "2013-03-05T01:48:25Z")
I love your episode breakdowns, **zut**! As to the father-son team, I was impressed with the crutch running but am wondering when he’s going to give himself an injury from that. I’m pretty sure if I was in the same position, I would stay in the race until they told me I had to go, whether for injury reasons or for inability to complete a task or just coming in last. The son didn’t look too happy about staying in, though, when they talked about it at the end. I see staying in and getting eliminated as giving another team an extra chance at staying in the race, rather than losing two teams at once. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/31 "2013-03-05T02:07:37Z")
That guy would not be getting around like that with a torn achilles tendon. That’s a debilitating injury and the pain is incredible. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/32 "2013-03-05T02:48:01Z")
Even when stabilized in a cast like that and looped on a crapload of opiates? (Wondering if that might be part of where the crying’s coming from.) ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/33 "2013-03-05T02:53:54Z")
He walked 100 yards to the mat and didn’t get the boot until much later. I’ve seen guys rupture Achilles and the reaction I’ve seen is collapsing in a heap and screaming in pain. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/34 "2013-03-05T03:00:19Z")
Huh. Well, I wouldn’t put it past them to exaggerate for TV. Another reason I think they should keep going until they’re thrown out. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/35 "2013-03-05T03:27:37Z")
Is nearly 48 hours the longest ever between the start of a leg and the first task in the leg? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/36 "2013-03-05T04:12:36Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > He walked 100 yards to the mat and didn’t get the boot until much later. I’ve seen guys rupture Achilles and the reaction I’ve seen is collapsing in a heap and screaming in pain. It’s not ruptured, it’s torn. The difference between the two can be vast. Torn could mean a teeny-tiny tear. Ruptured means snapped in two, no longer connected. Sort of like a hairline fracture compared to a broken bone. I’d be very concerned about further damaging it. Torn already, it could rupture. That’s game over, carry me to a hospital bed for an extended convalescence. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/37 "2013-03-05T04:40:33Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > As for your aside—yeah, I’m overall ok. You? Not bad. (Would hope for better for both of us, but it’s a start.) Nothing special going on, just settling back in to being a Bostonian again. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/38 "2013-03-05T05:44:11Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > It’s not ruptured, it’s torn. The difference between the two can be vast. > > Torn could mean a teeny-tiny tear. Ruptured means snapped in two, no longer connected. Sort of like a hairline fracture compared to a broken bone. > > I’d be very concerned about further damaging it. Torn already, it could rupture. That’s game over, carry me to a hospital bed for an extended convalescence. Good explanation, I tore mine 3/4s of the way across. Hurt like hell, but I could walk. In the boot, I felt invincible. Until the operation. Then, I was a baby about it. A friend of mine severed his, collapsed immediately, taken to hospital right away. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/39 "2013-03-05T14:52:36Z")
It was muy stupido for the father and son to use the express pass rather than really give the fishing a chance. The lake appeared stocked - all they had to do was keep trying. Now the pass is gone. They could’ve squeezed one more leg out before their sudden and inevitable [del]betrayal[/del] elimination. StG ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996/40 "2013-03-05T15:55:19Z")
I think it was the right decision for them to use it when they did. They are done, they won’t win but at least by coming in first they won a trip. I think if they’d waited to use it they may make it one more leg way at the back but then that would be it. At least they got something. I was oddly surprised at Max when he couldn’t drive properly. I was expecting a big freak out but he just quietly kept at it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-3-3-13/651996.md?page=3)