# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 - **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 101
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2004 "2021-01-06T19:35:32Z")
I just figured I would remind everyone where this could lead: declaration of a national emergency. I realize that for four years, I was considered crazy. Was I crazy? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2005 "2021-01-06T19:38:07Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Was I crazy? No. To me, you have been the voice of well-informed, prescient reason for five years or more. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2006 "2021-01-06T19:40:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Was I crazy? Nope. I agreed with you from the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2007 "2021-01-06T19:41:00Z")
In the end nothing’s going to happen. Biden will be president on the 20th. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2008 "2021-01-06T19:41:36Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I just figured I would remind everyone where this could lead: declaration of a national emergency. Trumplican Terrorists. I would hope that most people would see through this pathetic attempt at Krystallnacht Light. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2009 "2021-01-06T19:44:45Z")
This is probably the last chance that Trump has to use his powers to control the national militia. It’s worth pointing out that the defense reauthorization of 2007 actually gives the president powers pursuant to the USA Patriot Act, as well as powers under a variety of other acts, to use the militia in cases of “insurrection” and “emergency” – doesn’t say who needs to be leading the “insurrection.” When, or if, this ends…presumably sometime this week, then I hope that the military urges Trump’s cabinet to use the 25th Amendment. Or I hope that there is an immediate impeachment. One of the two. It needs to happen immediately. Trump needs to be removed from office and imprisoned. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2010 "2021-01-06T19:47:34Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > This is probably the last chance that Trump has to use his powers to control the national militia. It’s worth pointing out that the defense reauthorization of 2007 actually gives the president powers pursuant to the USA Patriot Act, as well as powers under a variety of other acts, to use the militia in cases of “insurrection” and “emergency” – doesn’t say who needs to be leading the “insurrection.” I really don’t see how that can be read as “giving the president power to use the military to LEAD an insurrection.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2011 "2021-01-06T19:50:23Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Trump needs to be removed from office and imprisoned. Absolutely this. He sent that terrorist mob to the Capitol Building today, to disrupt the work of Congress. Anyone supporting Trump from here on is quite simply a traitor. One other thing that would be good to see; When the joint session of congress reconvenes - there are no more objections, the idiot Trumplicans keep their mouths shut, and the electoral votes are all read into the record in under an hour. DONE. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2012 "2021-01-06T19:51:54Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > In the end nothing’s going to happen. Biden will be president on the 20th. Something has to happen one way or the other. The rebels need to be arrested and charged with sedition. If they don’t go peacefully, they need to end up the way their Confederate brethren did 160 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2013 "2021-01-06T19:52:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > …from here on… I agree with all of your post except this part. The line was crossed a while ago. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2014 "2021-01-06T19:52:35Z")
Charge him with treason. Oh, you need a war? Well, he tried to start one, close enough. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2015 "2021-01-06T19:52:46Z")
He has the power to impose martial law in an “emergency” I don’t doubt for a moment that this has crossed his mind, or Stephen Miller’s or Steve Bannon’s minds. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2016 "2021-01-06T19:53:49Z")
IF he tries this, they need to 25th amendment his ass pronto. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2017 "2021-01-06T19:54:08Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > He has the power to impose martial law in an “emergency” I don’t doubt for a moment that this has **crossed his mind** , or Stephen Miller’s or Steve Bannon’s minds. - And it kept going. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2018 "2021-01-06T19:55:45Z")
On the bright side, I’m feeling better about successfully defending my social media history to future employers now. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2019 "2021-01-06T19:56:09Z")
You’re right; poor choice of words on my part. These protests will not prevent Biden from becoming president on the 20th. There will be (I hope) plenty of arrests. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2020 "2021-01-06T19:58:21Z")
Fuck yeah! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2021 "2021-01-06T20:07:28Z")
One thing which got lost in all the shuffle was that, yesterday, in Pennsylvania’s Senate, the Republican majority refused to seat an incoming senator because…reasons. They also then kicked out the Lt. Governor as he protested. > **[A shouting match broke out in the Pennsylvania Senate, forcing Lt. Gov. John...](https://www.businessinsider.com/pa-gop-remove-lt-gov-john-fetterman-over-senator-dispute-2021-1)** > > GOP senators objected to swearing in state Sen. Jim Brewster because his Republican challenger, Nicole Ziccarelli, is disputing the result. As I mentioned, it’s important to go beyond just the presidential election, this is so, so, so much bigger than that. This is becoming “normal” behavior for the Republican party. The Republican party isn’t just moving further to the right; they are **radicalizing**. The right wing in the United States is radicalizing. This is not a movement we can just gently trust to correct itself; it’s not going to just realize it lost an election and say “Well, that strategy doesn’t work anymore, so let’s moderate a little.” No, we are much, much farther into the cave than that. We’re playing with some very high voltage shit right here. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2022 "2021-01-06T20:12:46Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > These protests will not prevent Biden from becoming president on the 20th. [Trump logic] But when the count stopped, Trump was ahead of Biden by [12 electoral votes to Nil](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/01/politics/electoral-vote-count-congress-tracker/), so Trump wins right? [/Trump logic] ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2023 "2021-01-06T20:14:24Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > [Trump logic] > But when the count stopped, Trump was ahead of Biden by 12 electoral votes to Nil, so Trump wins right? > [/Trump logic] How many innings do they have to play before it counts as a complete game? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=100) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=102)