# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 - **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 102
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2024 "2021-01-06T20:16:12Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > IF he tries this, they need to 25th amendment his ass pronto. This isn’t 25th amendment territory (which is presidential incapacity), this is impeachment. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2025 "2021-01-06T20:17:37Z")
Hah! Good point. Stop the steal! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2026 "2021-01-06T20:32:50Z")
Immediate impeachment. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2027 "2021-01-06T20:57:24Z")
If both houses could somehow convene and vote on this today, you might just see Trump convicted. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2028 "2021-01-06T20:59:28Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > In the end nothing’s going to happen. Biden will be president on the 20th Yup, nothing to see here, happens every day. No damage done. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2029 "2021-01-06T21:51:06Z")
Seeing national guard sweeping the capital building now. The scaffolding for the inauguration is making it very difficult to clear that side of the capital. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2030 "2021-01-06T22:42:16Z")
It seems as if the Pentagon (and SecDef) is coordinating National Guard response with Pence. Trump is no where involved in this. Almost like a soft 25th Amendment at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2031 "2021-01-07T09:18:24Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I realize that for four years, I was considered crazy. > > Was I crazy? The options were that either you were crazy or the country was. Turns out it was the country. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2032 "2021-01-07T12:30:17Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > What they do have a shot at — and one that should be taken seriously — is in creating confusion and encouraging political radicalism, including the incitement of violence. And it has started. Trumpers rioted and invaded the Capitol building today, **at Trump’s direction**. One woman was shot and killed trying to break down the chamber doors. > [@DrDeth](#): > > [Ted Cruz’s statement] > _Ideally, the courts would have heard evidence and resolved these claims of serious election fraud. Twice, the Supreme Court had the opportunity to do so; twice, the Court declined._ “The courts” _did_ call to hear evidence - there was none presented. The Supreme Court declined to hear the cases **because the cases were without merit.** And does anybody else see the irony and hypocrisy of arguing we need to delay the certification and delay the inauguration, when in 2000 they argued the legal recount that was going on was taking too long and they needed to certify so the Electoral College could convene on time? (A recount that, by the way, eventually showed Gore had more votes.) asahi , you have, unfortunately for us, been right. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2033 "2021-01-07T16:16:30Z")
asahi: I found many of your posts to be rather hyperbolic. Now… not so much. Full disclosure: I tend to use hyperbole myself as a rhetorical device. I agreed with the points you were trying to get across. Hyperbole, sarcasm, parody, and mocking are often effective tools. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2034 "2021-01-07T16:20:28Z")
Adam Kinzinger calls for 25th Amendment: > **[First Republican Calls for Trump's Removal from Office by 25th Amendment](https://www.newsweek.com/rep-adam-kinzinger-becomes-first-republican-call-trumps-removal-office-25th-amendment-1559747)** > > The Illinois lawmaker described the siege of the Capitol complex by a pro-Trump mob as "a wakeup call" to install a new "sane captain of the ship." A second Republican later followed suit to support immediately ousting the president. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2035 "2021-01-07T16:21:43Z")
Facebook taking Trump’s car keys ‘indefinitely:’ > **[UPDATE: Twitter Unlocks Trump Account; Facebook, Instagram Account Lockouts...](https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/facebook-extends-block-of-president-trump-accounts-indefinitely/)** > > While President Donald Trump regained access to his Twitter account Thursday, Facebook said it was extending a block of his Facebook and Instagram accounts indefinitely. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2036 "2021-01-07T16:36:17Z")
Has anyone seen any information about the other three people who died during the riot? Even given reasonable assumptions about the cardiac health of your average Trump supporter, it seems astounding to me that there would be three fatal heart attacks among them in the span of a few hours. ---
**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2037 "2021-01-07T16:42:27Z")
The other three were “suicide” - meaning Hillary had them killed. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2038 "2021-01-07T16:44:01Z")
Press conference now by the mayor of d.c… ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2039 "2021-01-07T16:44:29Z")
Dude…_too soon_. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2040 "2021-01-07T16:47:58Z")
LegalEagle chimes in. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LJ0Hfc8hvpE/maxresdefault.jpg "American Insurrection at The Capitol") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ0Hfc8hvpE) ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2041 "2021-01-07T17:04:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) on Thursday called for President Trump’s immediate removal from office, either by his Cabinet or through impeachment, describing the violence at the Capitol on Wednesday as “an insurrection against the United States, incited by the president.” Cite: > **[Pelosi, Schumer call for Trump’s removal; Trump acknowledges new administration](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/07/congress-election-biden-capitol-live-updates/)** > > Earlier Thursday, Trump pledged an “orderly transition.” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2042 "2021-01-07T17:13:54Z")
The irony–it burns! [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/fmzhGeg.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/NgknGUG) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2043 "2021-01-07T17:14:25Z")
The mayor clarified that capital police has jurisdiction of the capital and the grounds. Dc metropolitan police can not go in unless asked. Met police was called in around 1pm, after things had deteriorated badly. The three people who died from medical emergencies were 2 men in their 50’s and one woman in her 30’s. The fencing that is going up around the capital is a 7 foot fence that reported can not be scaled. It will be up for at least 30 days. The mayor is calling on the new president, congress, and senate to present dc for statehood, and to place the dc national guard under the mayor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=101) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=103)