# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 - **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 108
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2144 "2021-01-08T00:36:16Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Seeing as the Capitol Police responds to **both** Houses I’m sorry but _both_ Mitch and Nancy should have had them take this security scenario more seriously. They have nothing to do with the day to day running of the Capitol Police. Sure, they approve the budget, etc. > **[United States Capitol Police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Police_Board)** > > The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is a federal law enforcement agency in the United States with nationwide jurisdiction charged with protecting the United States Congress within the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its territories. It answers to the Capitol Police Board and is the only full-service federal law enforcement agency appointed by the legislative branch of the federal government of the United States. > The United States Capitol Police has the primary respo... The **Capitol Police Board** is the body that governs the [United States Capitol Police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police). It was established in 1873,[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Police_Board#cite_note-United_States_Capitol_Police_--_History-1) and today consists of three voting members: the [Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant_at_Arms_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives), the [Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant_at_Arms_of_the_United_States_Senate), and the [Architect of the Capitol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architect_of_the_Capitol). Additionally, the Chief of the Capitol Police serves ex officio as a non-voting member.[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Police_Board#cite_note-United_States_Capitol_Police_web_site-2) The Chairmanship of the board alternates annually between the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms. [[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Police_Board#cite_note-United_States_Capitol_Police_web_site-2) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2145 "2021-01-08T00:37:12Z")
We saw at least one guy with a holstered handgun, and quite a few guns were found in vans & backpacks. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2146 "2021-01-08T00:40:26Z")
That is a great speech, and puts the lie to the canard that Biden is getting senile. As to the heart attacks: The rumor is that one rioter fell on his own taser, and stopped his own heart when it went off. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2147 "2021-01-08T00:43:50Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > That is a great speech, and puts the lie to the canard that Biden is getting senile. - I don’t know about that. At 4:56.72, he paused for .17 seconds too long. Obviously a sign of impending dementia. /s ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2148 "2021-01-08T00:49:48Z")
Every person right there or who organized or encouraged the riot. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2149 "2021-01-08T01:06:09Z")
I feel very sorry for the front line LEO’s of all stripes. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t. And while this was predictable, parking the National Guard around would also cause problems. Trump would just say “See, they are stealing the election.” I’m not a LEO in any capacity, but it may have been wise to quietly move in a few hundred additional officers. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2150 "2021-01-08T01:17:38Z")
Wall Street Journal calls on Trump to resign: > ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2151 "2021-01-08T01:21:43Z")
A Capitol police officer has died after being assaulted. 56 injured. > **[Police Confirm Death Of Officer Injured During Attack On Capitol](https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/01/07/954333542/police-confirm-death-of-officer-injured-during-attack-on-capitol)** > > The Capitol Police said that officer Brian Sicknick died from his injuries and that several other officers injured in the attack remain hospitalized. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2152 "2021-01-08T01:30:37Z")
I always thought it was odd how law and order Republicans are so eager to ally themselves with white supremacists and militias that hate the police far more than any BLM activist does. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2153 "2021-01-08T01:32:31Z")
You have got to be kidding. They damn well should have parked some National Guard around. What you’re worried Trump might have said is exactly zero different from what he was already saying. Are you thinking that if the Guard was posted in view then something worse would have happened? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2154 "2021-01-08T01:33:31Z")
Individual 1 refused to call out the National Guard. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2155 "2021-01-08T01:39:42Z")
I heard on Nicolle Wallace that only a quarter of the Capitol Police were on duty yesterday when the rioting started. Given that it’s been obvious for weeks that there was likely to be trouble, I find this inconceivable\* — unless there was collusion at the higher levels. As far as opening the doors and letting the rioters in, one clip I saw appeared to show the entire group of officers at the top of the steps breaking back as a unit. Which fits in with another report I heard, that once it was apparent the building was going to be breached they were ordered back to protect the legislators and others inside. Which in turn squares with the comments I heard from several members of Congress, who had nothing but praise for the CP officers who were guarding them. All of which is worth exactly what you paid for it (even less if you’re a Member). \* In this case, I think the word means exactly what I think it means. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2156 "2021-01-08T01:46:46Z")
So what’s Trump’s next step in his coup? About the only thing he hasn’t tried is declaring martial law. So are we going to get that? Along with a round up of his political enemies? [\*] . [\*] Disregard the fact that he has so many enemies that it would take a major operation to get them all. And he doesn’t have the organizational skill to do a competent job of it. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2157 "2021-01-08T01:49:51Z")
he has finally conceded, of course talking about how great he is and that thinks he was cheated > **[Trump publicly acknowledges he won't serve a second term a day after inciting...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/politics/trump-biden-us-capitol-electoral-college-insurrection/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump conceded publicly for the first time Thursday that he will not serve a second term, stopping short of congratulating President-elect Joe Biden but acknowledging a transfer of power is now underway. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2158 "2021-01-08T01:56:45Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > Lindsey Graham is proof that one can indeed survive. > **[‘This Apology Is Bullshit And I Am Lying To You,’ Says GOP Senator To...](https://www.theonion.com/this-apology-is-bullshit-and-i-am-lying-to-you-says-1846012923)** > > WASHINGTON—In a speech addressing the rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol the previous day, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) released a statement to widespread media praise Thursday saying “this apology is bullshit and I am lying to you.” “Nothing—and... ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2159 "2021-01-08T01:59:37Z")
Devos resigns because of the Insurrection: > ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2160 "2021-01-08T02:03:38Z")
There was a point that the police decided that they could not hold the building, and decided to concentrate on getting the senators and congresspeople out. The fact that a policeman was killed by the insurgents, shows that they were overwhelmed. They had the chance to get help from dc, fbi, and national guard, but turned it down. They asked for help after it was too late. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2161 "2021-01-08T02:13:45Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > he has finally conceded, of course talking about how great he is and that thinks he was cheated Considering his history of telling lies, I’m not sure I believe that. Well, except for the “thinks he was cheated” part. That’s certainly true. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2162 "2021-01-08T02:16:28Z")
probably did it to avoid being 25thed. Not that is was going to succeed, but maybe a deal was made. He’s now concerned about his “legacy” ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2163 "2021-01-08T02:19:37Z")
is this really true? _lauded by anchors across CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News for being “powerful” and “healing,_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=107) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=109)