# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 -

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 143

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2844 "2021-01-12T01:03:34Z")

</div>

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
>
> The only thing that was missing was “Not fair!! They’re hurting the wrong people!”

Would that have come before or after “We’re storming the Capitol! This is a revolution!”?

Seriously, I was also a little surprised that she didn’t mention “hurting the wrong people.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2845 "2021-01-12T01:05:58Z")

</div>

I’m wondering if she can pronounce “seditious conspiracy” or even knows what it means, yet.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2846 "2021-01-12T01:06:47Z")

</div>

It’s all fun and games until some mace gets in your eyes. Then it’s not very pleasant.

“We shall not stop, even if we must shed a few tears for our revolution! What? Blood? No, blood is _right out_.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2847 "2021-01-12T01:18:55Z")

</div>

Wait, I thought this was debunked? I read she was rubbing her eyes with an onion. In her scarf. On the tape!

Y’know trolling the media! And Fame!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2848 "2021-01-12T01:19:06Z")

</div>

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
>
> … until some mace gets in your eyes.

Thanks for the earworm. I had to do something with that. To the tune of “Smoke Gets In Your Eyes,” by the Platters:

_They asked me how I knew_  
_My mission was true_  
_Oh-oh-oh-oh, I, of course, replied_  
_"Trump won a landslide_  
_And cannot be denied" (Ooh, ooh, ooh)_

_They said, with a heavy sigh,_  
_“Mace can make you cry”_  
_Oh-oh-oh-oh_

_If you’re gonna revolt,_  
_You must realize,_  
_Mace gets in your eyes._

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2849 "2021-01-12T01:25:20Z")

</div>

> [@running\_coach](#):
>
> I’m amazed at the thought of a right-winger demanding organic food.

Fine, as long as it’s Kentucky bluegrass.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2850 "2021-01-12T01:32:52Z")

</div>

> [@elbows](#):
>
> Wait, I thought this was debunked? I read she was rubbing her eyes with an onion. In her scarf. On the tape!
> 
> Y’know trolling the media! And Fame!

I had heard this too.

It’s mental. It’s like there was a bank robbery, and some dude shows up with a bag with “loot” written on it, and complains in front of cameras that there was not as much money as he thought there would be. Just section the person under the mental health act and be done with it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2851 "2021-01-12T01:37:43Z")

</div>

Two Capitol police have been suspended (one for taking the selfie with the traitors) and one has been fired (for putting on a MAGA hat and showing the traitors where to go inside the building).

> **[Two US Capitol police officers suspended, one arrested following Capitol riot](https://www.wlns.com/top-stories/two-us-capitol-police-officers-suspended-one-arrested-following-capitol-riot/)**
>
> Two Capitol Police officers have been suspended and one has been arrested following the riots at the U.S. Capitol, reports Newsy’s Alex Miller.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2852 "2021-01-12T01:50:49Z")

</div>

Charlie Kirk has deleted a tweet in which he claimed that he was providing 80 buses to the Individual 1 rally.

> **[Charlie Kirk deletes tweet saying he sent '80+ buses full of patriots' to D.C.](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/charlie-kirk-delete-tweet-buses-capitol/)**
>
> Charlie Kirk has deleted a tweet in which he claimed to have sent more than 80 buses filled with Trump supporters to Washington, D.C.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2853 "2021-01-12T02:00:09Z")

</div>

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> Charlie Kirk has deleted a tweet in which he claimed that he was providing 80 buses to the Individual 1 rally.

79 regular buses to fill with patriotic revolutionaries, and one giant bus to throw the other 79 buses under?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2854 "2021-01-12T02:01:10Z")

</div>

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
>
> I’d like everyone to meet Elizabeth from Knoxville, TN (video at the link):

[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idB6ZSX9PEw) has been my favorite meme from any of this. The sing-songy little way she says it, how it rhymes…that sob at the very end.

Also she’s been exposed [rubbing an onion in her eyes](https://i.redd.it/ojqqja57s0a61.jpg).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2855 "2021-01-12T02:05:19Z")

</div>

Liberal snowflakes!

❄ ❄ ❄

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2856 "2021-01-12T02:10:33Z")

</div>

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
>
> If it’s an “armed” protest, is it still a protest? Sounds like a euphemism for revolt.

Actually, so long as it’s peaceful, isn’t it protected by a combination of the 1st and 2nd Amendments? Doesn’t the right to bear arms include the right to carry in a peaceful fashion, and if is it’s at a political gathering, part of expressive conduct? unless expressly prohibited by law?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2857 "2021-01-12T02:17:26Z")

</div>

Surely context matters. If a violent insurrectionist mob has just attacked the Capitol, and intelligence strongly suggests that more attacks from similar groups are imminent, does the Constitution really say that if another mob shows up carrying weapons, we must assume they intend only peaceful protest right up until the moment they start shooting? Surely the Constitution is not a suicide pact?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2858 "2021-01-12T02:19:02Z")

</div>

Of course it’s musical. She’s wearing a piano around her neck.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2859 "2021-01-12T02:23:42Z")

</div>

Yes, context matters, and if there is intelligence that more than a peaceful protest is planned, the police have every right to prepare.

But can you assume that everyone carrying a gun to a protest intends to create a riot, any more than you can assume that everyone going to a protest intends to create a riot?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2860 "2021-01-12T02:30:17Z")

</div>

The tweet is the story. I mean, yet another dipshit gets arraigned, the sole newsworthy item about this is… in the tweet. What else is there to know?

Anyway, I’ll use the intenet as I see fit and I’ll let you do the same w/o complaint. Thanks!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2861 "2021-01-12T04:45:43Z")

</div>

> [@JohnT](#):
>
> What else is there to know?

I don’t know what else there is to know because you didn’t provide a proper cite for your post; you provided a 3rd party summation that someone else wrote. I’d prefer links to the actual source material so I _can_ find out more information there is any.

> [@JohnT](#):
>
> Anyway, I’ll use the intenet as I see fit and I’ll let you do the same w/o complaint. Thanks!

Don’t thank me; that’s your deal not mine.

I’ll be sure to flag this post for future reference tho.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2862 "2021-01-12T05:17:54Z")

</div>

I cannot believe the headline I just saw on the FOX News Webpage- “Acknowledgment of Blame : Trump recognized he bears some blame for Capitol riot in talk with McCarthy.” I had just went to the CNN page, their lead story was about a “Leaderless America”, Trump was going to Texas tomorrow to talk about the border wall. I wanted to see what the FOX page lead story was.

> **[Trump acknowledged he bears some blame for Capitol riot in conversation with...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-acknowledged-he-bears-some-blame-for-capitol-riot-last-week-in-call-with-mccarthy-sources)**
>
> President Trump acknowledged that he bears some blame for the Capitol riot last week during a conversation with House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy, a source familiar told Fox News.

Even FOX News, apart from the trio of fascists every night, is backing away from Trump.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2863 "2021-01-12T05:19:33Z")

</div>

Fallout reaches the RAGA:

> **[Republican AGs group leader quits over call pushing protest](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-capitol-siege-1553d7757c667f09510ac785d76c0bf4)**
>
> COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The executive director of a national group that advocates for Republican attorneys general has resigned in the fallout of a robocall urging people to march to the U...

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=142)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=144)
