# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 -

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2985 "2021-01-13T01:16:50Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A House staffer was passing out masks while they were all sheltered and there are videos of House members and their staffs refusing to take them.

That’s my point. Imagine if we were there and I came to you and asked you to wear a silly hat. Not only would you refuse, you’d think I was an idiot for even asking. That’s how they see this.

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2986 "2021-01-13T01:22:49Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I think it likely Trump has a dacha waiting for him in southern Russia. Maybe it’ll have a guest house that a bunch of these asshats can stay in.

Here’s the thing, though. Trump, Uday, Qusay, and Sparkle Pony, I believe, lack the imagination and/or intelligence to pull something like this and get away with it. So who could be behind it? There are a lot of deep pockets in the dark money sector.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2987 "2021-01-13T01:26:58Z")

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I prefer Feckless, Date Rape Jr and The Other One.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2988 "2021-01-13T01:27:23Z")

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> [@Jungian\_Camisole1](#):
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> Here’s the thing, though. Trump, Uday, Qusay, and Sparkle Pony, I believe, lack the imagination and/or intelligence to pull something like this and get away with it. So who could be behind it? There are a lot of deep pockets in the dark money sector.

It didn’t work, this suggesting the sort of malicious, chaotic incompetence I would absolutely assign to Trump, Beavis and Butthead and Sedition Barbie.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2989 "2021-01-13T01:28:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I prefer Feckless, Date Rape Jr and The Other One.

Tweet I saw the other day when Trump was getting banned from social media:

ERIC: Dad, here’s my phone! You can use my account to tweet!

TRUMP: (whistling, looking away) Who else has a phone… who else we got…

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2990 "2021-01-13T01:36:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A House staffer was passing out masks while they were all sheltered and there are videos of House members and their staffs refusing to take them.

Jeez. At what point are maskholes and covidiots going to start being sued for negligent endangerment and the like in situations like these? I mean, [there are discussions of potential lawsuits against antivaxxers whose kids infect others with measles](https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/california-lawyers-weigh-lawsuits-for-spread-of-the-measles-virus-negligent-endangerment-34383), for example.

No, COVID protocols like mask-wearing are not 100% guarantees against getting the disease, but then measles vaccination isn’t a 100% guarantee against getting measles, either. If people are knowingly disregarding public-health protocols that have been shown to reduce transmission risk, I don’t see why they’re not worrying at least somewhat about potential liability.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2991 "2021-01-13T01:38:54Z")

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> [@Liz Cheney](#):
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> There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution

Trump (checks calendar): Hold my ~~beer~~ Diet Coke

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2992 "2021-01-13T01:44:27Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> “I hereby pardon anyone who participated in any and all events of January 6 at the Capitol building, as they were just trying to stop the election from being stolen from me. Further, I pardon anyone who helped these people associated with the events of January 6 at the Capitol building.”

I had read elsewhere (or here; things move fast) that Don Jr was being investigated for his involvement in the insurrection. According to CNN, Trump is already looking into, at least, pardoning his spawn.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2993 "2021-01-13T01:55:36Z")

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> [@Jungian\_Camisole1](#):
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> I had read elsewhere (or here; things move fast) that Don Jr was being investigated for his involvement in the insurrection. According to CNN, Trump is already looking into, at least, pardoning his spawn.

Doesn’t pardoning remove the ability to plead the 5th? soon as Trump finds that out nobody in the inner circle is getting a pardon.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2994 "2021-01-13T01:57:09Z")

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In six months Lindsey will be carrying Biden’s golf clubs.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2995 "2021-01-13T01:57:19Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> From CNN for those who cannot see the WAPO link:

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2996 "2021-01-13T02:01:20Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Anyone want to predict the baseline for the over/under on how many congressmen get perp-walked by the FBI for actively collaborating with and assisting the seditionists?

My pessimistic side would put the over / under at 0.5 😢.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2997 "2021-01-13T02:06:51Z")

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Nail on the head, there. In their “minds” America is owned by White, Male, Christians and anybody else is a renter at best or a squatter at worst.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2998 "2021-01-13T02:13:55Z")

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Classy. 🙄

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/2999 "2021-01-13T02:39:49Z")

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I suspect that if Republicans are beginning to buckle, this could be why: they’re worried that seditionist conspiracy involves GOP congressmen or people close to them. Not good when there are two dead cops already.

They’re also beginning to hear the sucking sound of money leaving the party.

Potentially really good news

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3000 "2021-01-13T02:59:01Z")

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I think that any holdout Republicans need to answer the question:

“Are you with us or with the terrorist cop killers?”

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3001 "2021-01-13T03:06:08Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Nail on the head, there. In their “minds” America is owned by White, Male, Christians and anybody else is a renter at best or a squatter at worst.

The second half of this podcast is a really well informed and thoughtful discussion on this:

> **[Politics Podcast: What Led To The Attack On The Capitol](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-what-led-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/)**
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> A number of elements led to the riot at the U.S. Capitol last week: Trump’s incitement leading up to and on Jan. 6th, false claims made by Trump and many Republ…

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3002 "2021-01-13T03:35:32Z")

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Some, but mostly to others.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3003 "2021-01-13T03:39:43Z")

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Maybe, sorta.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3004 "2021-01-13T04:30:26Z")

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[This](https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/12/mikie-sherrill-pro-trump-rioters-got-tour-congress-members/6648386002/) seems like a pretty big damn deal.

_“Rep. Mikie Sherrill, during a live webcast Tuesday evening, said she witnessed some members of Congress leading people through the Capitol on Jan. 5 in what she termed a “reconnaissance for the next day” when insurrectionists took part in a deadly siege on the legislative branch.”_

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