# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 -

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3208 "2021-01-18T00:06:41Z")

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That ProPublica compilation is a hell of an accomplishment. Especially with the color-coded timeline at the top of the page. My hat is off to whoever put that together.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3209 "2021-01-18T00:12:35Z")

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They have some amazing data specialists there.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3210 "2021-01-18T00:14:53Z")

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Great news everyone:

> **[Parler's website is back online, but app still not in stores](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-parler-website/parlers-website-is-back-online-but-app-still-not-in-stores-idUSKBN29M0QU)**
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> The chief executive of social media platform Parler, popular with American right-wing users but which virtually vanished after the U.S. Capitol riot, posted a brief message on the company's website. Parler's app, however, remains offline.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3211 "2021-01-18T00:17:40Z")

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I’m sure the FBI and other watchdogs are thrilled to have it back!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3212 "2021-01-18T01:58:42Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> FBI and other watchdogs

Hell, they’re probably hosting it!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3213 "2021-01-18T02:11:03Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> The Republican Attorneys General Association was involved, as were the activist groups Turning Point Action and Tea Party Patriots. At least six current or former members of the Council for National Policy (CNP), an influential group that for decades has served as a hub for conservative and Christian activists, also played roles in promoting the rallies.

It will be interesting to watch the Feds declare each of those organizations to be PATRIOT Act terrorist organizations, put all their members on the no-fly lists, and start rounding them up.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3214 "2021-01-18T04:46:46Z")

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And freeze their bank accounts and seize their assets.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3215 "2021-01-18T04:49:52Z")

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Well, I was wrong. I predicted that there would be several large protests in a couple of states leading to gunfire and injury/death, and I was wrong. Apparently facing well-armed National Guard troops was enough to keep the folks who want to start a 2nd Civil war from starting anything. Not that they aren’t brave and hardy souls ready to lay down their lives, but…there’s a couple good NFL games on the TV today, and it is a bit cold outside…

Glad I was wrong, now hope I’m right that the Inauguration goes off without a hitch.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3216 "2021-01-18T05:01:16Z")

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We got three days yet.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3217 "2021-01-18T08:15:11Z")

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They lost whatever element of surprise their white privilege might have bought them and clearly can’t afford another “win” like 6 January right now.

But look at the state of the nation. 😬

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3218 "2021-01-18T08:27:43Z")

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> [@RyanAdam](#):
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> Pretty sad and pathetic the depths some ideologues sink to.

It’s satire! 😄

It even says at the top in red “The following piece is satire.”

He’s making fun of America’s ‘holier than thou’ attitude.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3219 "2021-01-18T08:55:17Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> It will be interesting to watch the Feds declare each of those organizations to be PATRIOT Act terrorist organizations, put all their members on the no-fly lists, and start rounding them up.

Be careful what you wish for. It’s not better if the PATRIOT Act and no-fly lists start being used against facists instead of just Muslims.

That shit should be abolished, not expanded. It will lead to no good indeed.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3220 "2021-01-18T09:00:48Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> It’s satire! 😄
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> It even says at the top in red “The following piece is satire.”
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> He’s making fun of America’s ‘holier than thou’ attitude.

The African Union one is satire, the Venusuelians really did release that because USA tried to coup them a few times but then got attempted couped by their own fuckwits.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3221 "2021-01-18T09:11:01Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> The African Union one is satire, the Venusuelians really did release that because USA tried to coup them a few times but then got attempted couped by their own fuckwits

I doubt that there’s any country in the world that America has preached to about democratic elections - not to mention the countries where America has overthrown, or tried to overthrow, democratic governments - that isn’t feeling a certain amount of schadenfreude about the claims of election fraud and the Capitol riots.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3222 "2021-01-18T09:18:18Z")

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It’s worth noting, in case there was any confusion, that Parler is NOT _functionally_ back online.

All they have on their website is a message saying “We will resolve any challenge before us and plan to welcome all of you back soon”.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3223 "2021-01-18T09:32:46Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> the countries where America has overthrown, or tried to overthrow, democratic governments - that isn’t feeling a certain amount of schadenfreude

schadenfreude is putting it mildly. A lot of indigenous and democratic groups all over the world are celebrating this is as the domino that will soon lead to the collapse of the American empire.

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3224 "2021-01-18T10:10:19Z")

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Parler Flakes?

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3225 "2021-01-18T10:50:38Z")

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"American boot off the face of the world. Forever."sters ?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3226 "2021-01-18T12:21:42Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> Be careful what you wish for. It’s not better if the PATRIOT Act and no-fly lists start being used against facists instead of just Muslims.
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> That shit should be abolished, not expanded. It will lead to no good indeed.

You are certainly correct that the PATRIOT Act was itself an authoritarian mistake. Odd that a multi-thousand page piece of legislation was ready to pass in just 2 days. Clearly somebody in high places had that on a shelf awaiting a suitable excuse to enact it.

At the moment we are in desperate times. Which may call for more desperate actions. 9/11 was a mere pinprick compared to the systematic sustained assault on our entire democracy at all levels by the well-funded forces of Fascism.

Sunsetting the PATRIOT Act, FISA, and all the rest will be one of the greatest days in the history of our nation. Provided we continue to exist as that nation long enough to get there.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/3227 "2021-01-18T12:26:37Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Provided we continue to exist as that nation long enough to get there.

Your empire going down should be good for everyone though, it’s just got to be managed properly.

It’s hard to talk about though because there’s so much denial about what has and will happen

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