# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 - **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/882 "2020-12-08T22:28:14Z")
Sorry, Teddy. The USSC doesn’t want to hear from you. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/883 "2020-12-08T23:13:11Z")
Did Mr. Krebs’ recent action get noted in the thread? > **[Cybersecurity official fired by Trump sues over threats](https://apnews.com/article/christopher-krebs-lawsui-joseph-digenova-5f38ee4dd03d26f146f306a6d6a64d57)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. cybersecurity official who was fired last month by President Donald Trump filed a lawsuit Tuesday over threatening remarks by a lawyer for the president that prompted a wave of death threats against him. > [@](#): > > Christopher Krebs says in the suit that he has been “bombarded” with threats since attorney Joseph diGenova appeared on the pro-Trump TV network Newsmax and called for Krebs to be killed. > > “The defendants’ threats have upended plaintiff’s life, as well as his family’s security, and caused serious fear, distress, suffering, and even physical damage,” he said in the suit, filed in diGenova’s home state of Maryland. > > Krebs was director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency until [he was fired in a Nov. 17 tweet by Trump](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-politics-elections-2481250f4e823dfb2a63d80569495c5c)after he and other officials who oversaw the election determined it was free of major fraud or interference, contradicting the president’s unsubstantiated assertions to the contrary. > > DiGenova said in a Nov. 30 appearance on Newsmax that Krebs should be “drawn and quartered” and “taken out at dawn and shot” for his defense of the November election won by Joe Biden and his participation in what he portrayed as a “coup” against the president. > > He later said he had been joking in the interview but the lawsuit calls the remarks “shockingly irresponsible and dangerous,” in the tense political climate. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/884 "2020-12-08T23:20:44Z")
Supreme court has weighed in. Very quick response and judgement to deny even hearing the ridiculous Republican requests. One line. Denied. No dissent. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/885 "2020-12-09T00:06:22Z")
Did they actually deny cert or just deny the emergency injunction. News stories are remarkably bad at making these things clear. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/886 "2020-12-09T00:21:55Z")
“The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the court is denied.” That’s it. That’s the entirety of the ruling. Make of it what you will. My read of it is this: “This was a stupid request. Don’t do this again.” ---
**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/887 "2020-12-09T00:28:14Z")
There’s a Texas lawsuit now isn’t there? I presume that one is similarly doomed. I’ve heard reported that other States are joining the Texas suit but I can only find it claimed on whackjob sources ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/888 "2020-12-09T00:31:06Z")
I can’t imagine how the numb-nuts with this Texas lawsuit think that they have standing to challenge election results in another state. It’s idiotic on it’s face. ---
**Author:** ![lesh17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc348/32.png) [@lesh17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lesh17)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/889 "2020-12-09T00:35:31Z")
I really, really hope that the AGs of PA, GA, MI, and WI band together to sue to invalidate the TX election with SCOTUS due to all the voter suppression and disenfranchisement taking place. That would be delicious irony. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/890 "2020-12-09T01:10:43Z")
Apparently the court has asked the states named in the TX suit to respond by Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/891 "2020-12-09T01:18:18Z")
> [@Malden\_Capell](#): > > There’s a Texas lawsuit now isn’t there? I presume that one is similarly doomed. I think it’s instructive that the Texas solicitor general, who normally would argue the state’s position before the Supreme Court (and did so on the ACA case last month) would not let his name appear in the filing. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/892 "2020-12-09T01:42:18Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Make of it what you will. Hm. I’m not a lawyer so it’s hard for me to know. My understanding is the filing asked for injunctive relief. That was clearly denied. Did it ask for anything else? Is there any other issue for them to consider? I think it’s pretty obvious that the TX et al suit is insanity and will never be heard, but that’s what the MAGA-sphere is hanging it’s hat on now. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/893 "2020-12-09T01:46:03Z")
I see the AZ Supreme Court laid down the smack as well tonight, so there is another case off the table. > **[Arizona Supreme Court tosses GOP chairwoman Ward's voting lawsuit](https://ktar.com/story/3738296/arizona-supreme-court-tosses-gop-chairwoman-wards-voting-lawsuit/)** > > The Arizona Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that GOP chairwoman Kelli Ward failed to provide substantial evidence of voter fraud in the latest lawsuit. > [@](#): > > The court noted that the lawsuit failed to present evidence of misconduct, illegal votes or any form of voter fraud that would undermine the results of the election. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/894 "2020-12-09T13:51:31Z")
3 losing Repub candidates in MA elections who lost by 25, 31 and 49(!) points are suing now, using the same stupid trumpish arguments of voter fraud. Is this a precedent now? Every single goddam time a Repub loses fair and square now, they yell and scream and sue? There needs to be some kind of reform or reset to wipe out the taint of trumpism from American politics. I don’t know how that would be accomplished, or if it’s even possible though. > **[Moulton challenger, other losing Republicans, sue over election](https://www.salemnews.com/news/local_news/moulton-challenger-other-losing-republicans-sue-over-election/article_75df5dca-ce55-5817-9259-659db447f8b9.html)** > > SALEM — A group of losing Republican congressional and state legislative candidates led by unsuccessful 6th District congressional challenger John Paul Moran want a federal judge to either decertify the ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/895 "2020-12-09T14:21:30Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > I think it’s pretty obvious that the TX et al suit is insanity and will never be heard, but that’s what the MAGA-sphere is hanging it’s hat on now. But wait…there’s more! > U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday vowed to intervene in a case brought by the state of Texas before the U.S. Supreme Court to throw out the voting results in four other states. > > Trump, writing on Twitter, said: “We will be INTERVENING in the Texas (plus many other states) case. This is the big one. Our Country needs a victory!” SOURCE: [https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-trump-idUSKBN28J1VJ](https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-trump-idUSKBN28J1VJ) (FYI: What I quoted it pretty much all of it) ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/896 "2020-12-09T14:46:11Z")
What sort of intervention could possibly be warranted or helpful here? Is he saying the federal government is going to join the suit against those states (terrifying, but likely pointless)? Or him personally as a candidate (insane, and pointless)? Or, as usual, is this just bluster to get a few more donations? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/897 "2020-12-09T14:48:31Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > What sort of intervention could possibly be warranted or helpful here? The kind where a family member has gone profoundly off the rails. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/898 "2020-12-09T14:50:30Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > Make of it what you will. > > Hm. I’m not a lawyer so it’s hard for me to know. My understanding is the filing asked for injunctive relief. That was clearly denied. Did it ask for anything else? Is there any other issue for them to consider? > > I think it’s pretty obvious that the TX et al suit is insanity and will never be heard, but that’s what the MAGA-sphere is hanging it’s hat on now. Yes, conservative boards and Fox commenters are completely relying on Supreme Court intervention now. All these state courts and lower federal courts are DEEP STATE. That’s some Deep State, our Deep State. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/899 "2020-12-09T15:53:40Z")
He’s going to bring his little table-desk to the SCOTUS courtroom and park it at the end of the high bench. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/900 "2020-12-09T16:00:13Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > That’s some Deep State, our Deep State. 🎶 Don’t miss it, don’t even be late! It’s dollars to doughnuts that our Deep State Is the best Deep State in our State! 🎵 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/901 "2020-12-09T16:44:44Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Did they actually deny cert or just deny the emergency injunction. News stories are remarkably bad at making these things clear. No petition for a writ of certiorari is before the Supreme Court. The emergency application for a writ of injunction was filed “pending” such a filing. Petition: > **[20201203162739451\_Final\_Emergency%20Application%20for%20Writ%20of%20Injunction.pdf](https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20A98/162573/20201203162739451_Final_Emergency%20Application%20for%20Writ%20of%20Injunction.pdf)** > > 319.17 KB Order: > **[120820zr\_bq7d.pdf](https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/120820zr_bq7d.pdf)** > > 20.45 KB [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=46)