# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 - **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1182 "2020-12-16T18:52:27Z")
Some of us like to keep abreast of current events. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1183 "2020-12-16T20:22:54Z")
I was fooled once by a conspiracy theory. I felt like a boob. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1184 "2020-12-16T20:27:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I felt like a boob. When I was a teenager, my greatest ambition was to feel a boob. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1185 "2020-12-16T21:07:13Z")
It’s titillating. ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1186 "2020-12-16T21:17:09Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > When I was a teenager, my greatest ambition was to feel a boob. It’s always nice to stroll down mammary lane. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1187 "2020-12-16T21:21:39Z")
Could we please get back to the administration’s tit for tat? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1188 "2020-12-16T21:34:15Z")
Sen Steinburg’s metaphor is more apt than he realizes. Donald Trump’s primary agenda right now is to milk the boobs. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1189 "2020-12-16T21:51:36Z")
Whatever he gets out of them, it sure won’t be the milk of human kindness. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1190 "2020-12-16T23:28:28Z")
It’s udderly pointless to talk sense into them, so may as well nurse that cash flow teat as long as it isn’t dry! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1191 "2020-12-17T00:09:50Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > I somehow doubt he has any idea just how much space 750,000 ballots would take up and how much they would weigh. At least of the ballots I had to fill out. That’s one lesson I learned from Square One TV concerning accusing people of having a ridiculous number of something with them. Of all the claims about “the difference between Trump fans and Trump opponents” that have been made, this one may be the most accurate: the difference is that Trump opponents watched _Square One TV_—and fans of the Mango Menace have no idea what Square One TV is. (Apologies for this post’s lack of mammorable content.) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1192 "2020-12-17T02:12:17Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > He also offers the indelible quote that, "These boobs are waking up.”- These boobs are made for walkin’… ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1193 "2020-12-17T06:15:41Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s important to realize that this is indeed a problem for global democracy, not just an American problem. > > At the risk of being ethnocentric, the one problem I see with America’s total democratic dysfunction is that failure of democracy in the United States is a disastrous turn of events for democracies everywhere. I disagree. There is so, so much that has happened in US politics that just seems unfathomable right now to the rest of the democracies. My native UK has its fair share of right-wing blowhards. It has things like the Daily Mail that are akin to FOX. It had Piers Morgan (thanks for taking one for the team, America). It has idiots believing 5G causes Covid. But still…virtually any of Trump’s scandals would have been immediately disqualifying because supporters and detractors alike would acknowledge what happened. We couldn’t get anywhere close to this coup stage, let alone the blatant lying and waving on of extremists along the way. Now, you could argue that some day countries like the UK will be just like the US, but I would personally need to see some data to indicate that. > [@asahi](#): > > China is watching the United States fall. But it won’t just watch; it will help us fall. I disagree with this too; it’s not China’s M.O. Sure, the Chinese government has been pointing and laughing at the US and saying that this utter mess is what you get when you give people the vote. Trump’s idiocy helps build the case for authoritarian governments worldwide. But it’s not in their best interest for a nutter to be president, nor civil unrest. It’s bad for business. China is not immune to trade wars, actual military wars or the world economy being depressed. Don’t forget China owns a lot of US debt (not most of it though, as often gets incorrectly reported). The idea of being #1 at all costs is more of a US cultural thing than a Chinese thing. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1194 "2020-12-17T12:35:10Z")
Okay, peeps-- got this in an email. This is a hoax, right? [![](https://i.imgur.com/xX428Pi.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/xX428Pi.jpg) ETA: Maybe not. > **[Trump : 'Any attempt to remove the Trump administration will require force'](https://floridianpress.com/2020/12/trump-any-attempt-to-remove-the-trump-administration-will-require-force/)** > > President Donald Trump appears to have just drawn a line in the sand,  announcing that "any attempt to remove the Trump ad ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1195 "2020-12-17T12:57:20Z")
I like the “prior to January 20th” part. Because after that he’s going to go, knowing that he really has to? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1196 "2020-12-17T13:10:01Z")
Poor bastard. I should probably send him a check. /s ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1197 "2020-12-17T13:24:00Z")
Any attempt to remove Trump will require force. Trump will be in Mar-a-Largo on Jan 20th. I have a feeling this won’t work out so great for the Trump Administration. I do agree with one thing. Americans deserve better. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1198 "2020-12-17T13:35:51Z")
Sure looks like he’s going to have his own fake swearing in ceremony in Florida on Jan. 20. Maybe he’ll get that crazy coot 10 commandments judge from Alabama to do the honors. No matter what he does, a good portion of his Secret Service detail plus those for his adult children plus the nuclear football plus AF1 are going to be leaving him at noon that day. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1199 "2020-12-17T13:38:37Z")
And his twitter account will be disabled as well, most likely. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1200 "2020-12-17T13:45:28Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I disagree. > There is so, so much that has happened in US politics that just seems unfathomable right now to the rest of the democracies. > My native UK has its fair share of right-wing blowhards. It has things like the Daily Mail that are akin to FOX. It had Piers Morgan (thanks for taking one for the team, America). It has idiots believing 5G causes Covid. > But still…virtually any of Trump’s scandals would have been immediately disqualifying because supporters and detractors alike would acknowledge what happened. We couldn’t get anywhere close to this coup stage, let alone the blatant lying and waving on of extremists along the way. Maybe 15 or 20 years ago, I would have assumed even a fraction of what has transpired the last 5 years to be disqualifying behavior. Things change, Mijin, and they can change faster than we might assume possible. I absolutely agree that, institutionally, British democracy, Canadian democracy, and other Westernized democracies are much stronger than what we have now in the United States, which has been in a steady, observable decline since the turn of the 21st Century. But you look at what has happened in Eastern Europe for example, and then you look a little further to the West and you can hear the rumblings of ethno-nationalism in Germany and France…it’s not that hard for me to imagine that it could all change rather quickly. All it would take are a lot of unemployed and underemployed males under the age of 35. > [@Mijin](#): > > The idea of being #1 at all costs is more of a US cultural thing than a Chinese thi I’m not saying China wants to be number one at all costs - I don’t think it wants to see the US dissolve into breakaway republics, for example. But I suspect China is absolutely fine with the US tripping over its own schlong. China clearly views itself as the dominant power in Asia and it wants the US out of its way. So while I agree that a fractured and unstable US is not necessarily in China’s interests, I doubt it’s shedding tears over what it is observing right now and it is probably in its own way going to thrust its influence upon us from time to time where it believes it can be used to its advantage, no different from Russia (although there, too, I agree that there is a difference between the objectives of Putin and Xi). All of this is to say, US mired in its own internal messes ensures that China can achieve its global political aims with far greater ease. ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1201 "2020-12-17T13:53:20Z")
From that article (bolding mine): “Trump is exhausting all of the legal remedies available to him in order to expose the **now-verified widespread voter fraud** that occurred during the election.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182.md?page=61)