# The American Coup: 11.9.2020 -

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182 "2020-11-09T23:29:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1964 "2021-01-05T18:32:22Z")

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Hey, didya know that [“The Vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors”](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346488314157797389)? That’s what my president just told me!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1965 "2021-01-05T18:42:50Z")

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> [@Chad\_Sudan](#):
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> Hey, didya know that [“The Vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors”](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346488314157797389)? That’s what my president just told me!

Trump is openly calling on the Vice President to defy the law and the constitution now.

The Stupid Coup continues…

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1966 "2021-01-05T18:46:12Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump is openly calling on the Vice President to defy the law and the constitution now.

People who’ve lived their entire lives in a functioning democracy assume it always will be. They struggle to know the signs of failure. The USA is showing a LOT of those signs right now.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1967 "2021-01-05T18:55:15Z")

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The Cuckoo Coup. It’s more fun to say.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1968 "2021-01-05T19:26:45Z")

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You can’t tell the players even _with_ a score card.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1969 "2021-01-05T19:44:01Z")

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Well, you know, I try my best to be sagacious and perspicacious. 😉

Since you’re a pilot, I guess I’ll throw out another aviation analogy. Our democracy is like an aging aircraft with some old rivets that are beginning to show signs of wear and tear. From one day to the next, it takes off and lands, able to withstand the internal and external forces applied to its structure. It functions without any apparent problems - until one day, passengers hear a funny noise before suddenly, the rivets just come lose and the thing just breaks apart in the sky.

There is, of course, time to put it in the hangar, bring out an experienced maintenance crew, fix the rivets, and make sure we fly right and safely. But the longer we delay…

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1970 "2021-01-05T20:00:58Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> The Cuckoo Coup. It’s more fun to say.

But is the cuckoo coup wrapped in a cuckoo cocoon?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1971 "2021-01-05T20:02:32Z")

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‘Coupkoo’

(That’s it. That’s the post.)

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1972 "2021-01-05T20:17:11Z")

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For a sneak peek on where this is headed, a duly elected Democratic state senator in Pennsylvania is [not being seated](https://twitter.com/abgutman/status/1346519659005284353) solely because his opponent refuses to concede.

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**Author:** ![Lavender\_Pebble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lavender_pebble/32/6290_2.png) [@Lavender\_Pebble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lavender_Pebble)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1973 "2021-01-05T20:27:08Z")

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I just read that! Absolutely incredible the depths to which they are sinking, even though his win was certified.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1974 "2021-01-05T20:39:08Z")

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The best part is that the Republican legislature set the rules for the election, requiring that mail in ballots not be counted until after polls closed. Now, they’re saying that the mail in ballot numbers happening after the polls closed is evidence that there was fraud.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1975 "2021-01-05T21:12:56Z")

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That’s not some random or ironic occurrence. That is the entire reason why they set those rules in the first place, so they’d have a built-in reason to challenge the results.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1976 "2021-01-05T21:34:21Z")

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My friend posted this article from 2016 today. Pretty funny. (It’s a real article not satire)

[Trump accuses Cruz of ‘fraud,’ calls for new Iowa election - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/trump-cruz-stole-iowa-tweet-deleted-218674)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1977 "2021-01-05T22:29:08Z")

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Can I use my own thread to say ‘fuck you’ to Donald Trump for making this my most successful topic in almost 20 years on these Boards?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1978 "2021-01-05T22:30:19Z")

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I’m cool with that, **John**. 👍 😃

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1979 "2021-01-06T00:39:36Z")

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How about [Keystone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Cops) Koup?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1980 "2021-01-06T02:24:18Z")

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The Economist magazine has published a very heartfelt and articulate opinion piece by Arnold Schwarzenegger on why the Republicans must stop the charade tomorrow or live on only in infamy.

The article is paywalled, but AIUI you can get a few free articles by giving an email address.

> **[Arnold Schwarzenegger on why Republicans must stop Trump](https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2021/01/05/arnold-schwarzenegger-on-why-republicans-must-stop-trump)**
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> It is time to end the president’s “stupid, crazy and evil” ploy to cling to power, says the former governor of California

All true Americans should read and heed this. That the whole country wasn’t chanting a similar line in unison the last 5 years is a pitiful shame.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1981 "2021-01-06T02:41:35Z")

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Ted Cruz just admitted to Hannity that tomorrow’s planned objections have no chance to change the reality of a Biden presidency. But the demonstration must be made in order to save democracy.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1982 "2021-01-06T02:55:27Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The Economist magazine has published a very heartfelt and articulate opinion piece by Arnold Schwarzenegger on why the Republicans must stop the charade tomorrow or live on only in infamy.
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> The article is paywalled, but AIUI you can get a few free articles by giving an email address.
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> [Arnold Schwarzenegger on why Republicans must stop Trump](https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2021/01/05/arnold-schwarzenegger-on-why-republicans-must-stop-trump)
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> All true Americans should read and heed this. That the whole country wasn’t chanting a similar line in unison the last 5 years is a pitiful shame.

This is really, really good. It won’t sway any Trumpers, but it is very, very good.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182/1983 "2021-01-06T04:04:28Z")

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I liked Arnie as Governator. Not perfect, but better than Newsom (altho newsom is doing OK with the pandemic)

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