# The American Coup Fallout thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 20, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029 "2021-01-20T22:34:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/1 "2021-01-20T22:34:14Z")

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Since the [actual coup](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182) is over, this is the thread to discuss the fallout from the coup attempt of 1.6.2021 (well, it started earlier, but that’s the date history will remember). Trials of Insurrectionists, bills passed and signed into law as a result, state-level reactions to what has occurred, and other items are fair game for discussion.

However, as much as we can, let’s keep Trump impeachment discussions to the [Post Inauguration Impeachment](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-inauguration-impeachment/930190) thread, please. This thread is for news about all the other people, including the legal and personal travails of the lowly Insurrectionist, abandoned by Individual-1.

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**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/2 "2021-01-20T22:36:40Z")

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Asking the important question: what’s the name of this event going to be? The American Coup? The insurrection? The uncivil war? 1/6? (I hope not that last one).

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/3 "2021-01-20T22:40:33Z")

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How about “That Was the Coup That Wasn’t”?

People old enough will remember David Frost’s satirical news show, [_That Was the Week That Was_.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Was_the_Week_That_Was)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/4 "2021-01-20T22:40:57Z")

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“The wet-firecracker Insurrection that scared the shit out of people finally”?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/5 "2021-01-20T22:41:58Z")

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Thanks for your quick action on the other thread, WE.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/6 "2021-01-20T22:43:02Z")

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Chicken Coup

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/7 "2021-01-20T22:44:43Z")

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The coup part is over, but I fear the terrorism is not.

Whitmer was almost kidnapped(well, a stupid attempt was made), Biden’s bus was nearly ran off the road, and the Capitol was attacked.

I fear for Biden and Harris. I know they have secret service, but I still worry a terrorist will make an attempt on either of them.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/8 "2021-01-20T22:44:53Z")

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Didn’t someone leave a fecal memento on the floor in the Capitol? Thus the Shitty Rebellion might be an apt name for posterity.  
And if that guy gets caught, his name will smell for ever and ever in the USA’s collective memory. DNA could make it possible if the evidence has not been thrown in the loo.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/9 "2021-01-20T22:45:34Z")

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Croupella de Vil

(I was this moment years old when I realized her last name spells ‘devil’. Holy shit. I’m logging off and re-examining my life.)

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/10 "2021-01-20T22:46:54Z")

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I’ve seen it referred to most as the “Capitol building riot” or “Capitol riot”.

Here’s one federal arrest from a week and a half ago:

> **[Jake Angeli, who wore fur hat and horns as mob raided U.S. Capitol, arrested...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/09/jake-angeli-qanon-man-fur-hat-horns-capitol-riot-arrested/6609039002/)**
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> The QAnon-supporting man who briefly took the dais during the storming of the U.S. Capitol was arrested Saturday, the Justice Department said.

From my state of Florida, here’s two arrests, one of them a Proud Boy:  
[https://omaha.com/news/national/proud-boy-organizer-arrested-in-florida-for-riot-at-capitol/article\_dd61b047-c73f-52a3-b39d-3060291dd2eb.html](https://omaha.com/news/national/proud-boy-organizer-arrested-in-florida-for-riot-at-capitol/article_dd61b047-c73f-52a3-b39d-3060291dd2eb.html)

~Max

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/11 "2021-01-20T22:47:25Z")

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Lol, no, not cheapening what happened by calling it a mere ‘riot’, Max.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/12 "2021-01-20T22:47:57Z")

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And _vil_ means _vile_ in Spanish and in French and _de_ is genitive, like: _belongs to_ or _comes from_, go figure.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/13 "2021-01-20T22:48:58Z")

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Hey man, it’s your thread. Call it whatever you want to.

~Max

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/14 "2021-01-20T22:54:52Z")

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Precisely. In this thread, it’s a coup. If you wish to argue otherwise, there is a current discussion, ongoing here:

> [@It wasn’t a coup](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-wasn-t-a-coup/930407):
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> It just was not. I am very Liberal. I am pissed off at what happened, as everyone in the nation should also be, regardless of party. But this was not an attempt at a takeover of government. It just was not. Hang the current GOP for their role in what happened, which was bad enough. But the coup nonsense embarrasses us and detracts from real crimes and real threats.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/15 "2021-01-20T22:56:12Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Whitmer was almost kidnapped(well, a stupid attempt was made), Biden’s bus was nearly ran off the road, and the Capitol was attacked.
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> I fear for Biden and Harris. I know they have secret service, but I still worry a terrorist will make an attempt on either of them.

Yes. When people trivialize the danger from these attempts because they were stupid or the perpetrators were caught, I’m reminded of the quote after the 1984 assassination attempt on Margaret Thatcher: “Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always.”

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/16 "2021-01-20T23:15:23Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> If you wish to argue otherwise, there is a current discussion, ongoing here

Not interested.

On-topic: China compares the failed coup to July 2019 Hong Kong protests

> **[China mocks US ‘double standards’ over Capitol chaos vs Hong Kong](https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3116825/china-mocks-us-double-standards-over-capitol-chaos-vs-hong)**
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> From officials to online commenters, Chinese critics accuse Washington of hypocrisy in its response to the storming of the Hill by Trump supporters.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/17 "2021-01-20T23:23:25Z")

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[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/sswekTy.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/h68k0J7)

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**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/18 "2021-01-21T00:02:59Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Precisely. In this thread, it’s a coup.

“The coup” was everything including post office meddling months ago, lawsuits, false claims, the actions of some state legislators/election officials, phone calls to Georgia and other states, whatever happened behind closed doors, and the Jan 6th events at the Capitol. You could call that early stuff “coup prep” versus the actual coup if you like, but particular events could have different names like “Capitol Riots” (admittedly I agree that “riot” is too weak) without taking away from it being an overall coup.

But I intended the question to be a brief fun aside and not a big derail, so I’ll leave it there…

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**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/19 "2021-01-21T00:07:44Z")

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The Idiot Insurrection

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/20 "2021-01-21T00:11:45Z")

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I saw “Coup Klutz Klan” somewhere and I like that, although it really only works written. Too similar to the actual KKK clan when spoken. If not that, I like “Chicken Coup”.

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