# The American Coup Fallout thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 20, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029 "2021-01-20T22:34:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/261 "2021-03-09T22:22:30Z")

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Other than the shoes there doesn’t seem to be much to go on unfortunately. The story says they aren’t even sure it its a man or woman. I worry this will be one of those unsolved crimes, unless the perp starts running their mouth.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/262 "2021-03-10T02:50:34Z")

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Or, more likely, running their Twitter.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/263 "2021-03-10T03:57:38Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Other than the shoes there doesn’t seem to be much to go on unfortunately.

Ooh, let’s start dissing the footwear, and wait for someone to post:

> [@tweetster](#):
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> Damn, those are not JC Penney Nikes!  
> I paid big for those VaporMax Flyknit Threes, you haters!
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> 11:47 am March 13, 2021 • 139 happy monkey emojis • 27 overflowing toilet emojis

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/264 "2021-03-10T15:43:23Z")

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If we’re lucky he was dumb enough to have his mobile phone on him and on - he might have left some digital crumbs behind if that’s the case. If he’s smart, he used a burner phone or simply went 20th Century and didn’t bring it.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/265 "2021-03-11T03:36:43Z")

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A guy with a top secret clearance who worked on the Presidential helicopter has been charged with participating in the insurrection.

> **[Capitol Rioter Served as Crew Chief in Marine One Squadron](https://www.thedailybeast.com/capitol-rioter-john-daniel-andries-was-presidential-helo-crew-chief-report-says)**
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> John Daniel Andries joined Marine Helicopter Squadron 1 in 2006, and had a top-secret security clearance, officials say.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/266 "2021-03-11T05:02:02Z")

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To join the squadron, members must undergo a special security clearance process known as Yankee White, which is reserved for personnel with close access to the president.

Yankee White? There’s a grim joke somewhere in there.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/267 "2021-03-11T06:53:43Z")

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that story leaves off this [nugget of info](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/03/10/capitol-riot-marine-one/):

> Andries left the Marine Corps as a lance corporal in November 2009 with no combat deployments, according to his service record.

so he hasnt been a marine for over 11yrs. and judging by his picture _a lot_ has happened in those intervening years.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/268 "2021-03-12T05:07:46Z")

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I wonder why neither one of those pipe bombs went off.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/269 "2021-03-12T10:58:48Z")

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I’ve seen it speculated that they were intended only to attract attention and draw police officers away from the Capitol building, thereby reducing their defenses and making it easier to achieve a breach. But because the police lines were already poorly staffed and organized, this became unnecessary, so the bombs were practically abandoned. It makes sense, I guess, though forensics experts should be able to extract substantial evidence from an unexploded bomb, and someone with real-world criminal experience would know better than to leave a device like that for law enforcement to analyze.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/270 "2021-03-27T22:32:33Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Yankee White? There’s a grim joke somewhere in there.

Speaking of which, has there been anything released on what the Secret Service’s code name for Biden is? Or Trump for that matter.

I’m thinking of that SNL sketch where the SS reluctantly told Ford his code name was Stumblebum.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/271 "2021-03-27T22:51:53Z")

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Trump - Mogul  
Biden - Celtic

> **[Secret Service code name](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Service_code_name)**
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> Pages for logged out editors learn more
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> 			 
> The United States Secret Service uses code names for U.S. presidents, first ladies, and other prominent persons and locations. The use of such names was originally for security purposes and dates to a time when sensitive electronic communications were not routinely encrypted; today, the names simply serve for purposes of brevity, clarity, and tradition. The Secret Service does not choose these names, however. The White House Communications Agenc...

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/272 "2021-03-28T00:16:06Z")

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?  
I thought it was

Clinton - Satchmo  
Ford - Jiggy Druid Evil  
Bush Sr - O’Brien

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/273 "2021-03-30T03:33:46Z")

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A civilian employee of the Air Force, who is allegedly a Proud Boy, and advocated civil war, has been banned from showing up for work on the unnamed Air Force Base he works at.

> **[Civilian employee who allegedly advocated for ‘civil war’ banned from Air...](https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2021/03/29/civilian-employee-who-allegedly-advocated-for-civil-war-banned-from-air-force-base/)**
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> Air Force Materiel Command has barred an unnamed civilian employee from one of its bases after it said the man, allegedly a member of the far-right Proud Boys, threatened violence against the government.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/274 "2021-03-30T04:50:28Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> has been banned from showing up for work on the unnamed Air Force Base he works at.

Surly there must be a few Confederate generals whose names we could use for this poor neglected Air Force Base.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/275 "2021-03-30T12:55:21Z")

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In 4 years after the Proud Boys take over the country this base will be renamed in honor of this now-anonymous civilian contractor.

Who is 99.9% likely to be a retired enlisted man who has earned his crust from Uncle Sam for the entirety of his life. IOW, a man who’s been embedded in a socialist workers’ paradise from high school on now wants to tear it down over rumors that some of the rest of the citizens want to extend a small amount of more of the same to themselves.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/276 "2021-04-04T02:11:16Z")

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Former Salt Lake City “officer of the year” arrested for his part in the Capitol sedition.

> **[Salt Lake City's 'Officer Of The Year' Arrested By The FBI For His Role In...](https://crooksandliars.com/2021/04/salt-lake-citys-officer-year-arrested-fbi)**
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> Michael Lee Hardin, 50, was arrested by the FBI on evidence from his texts to Tipster #1. Tipster #2 gave precise photos shared by Hardin.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/277 "2021-04-09T20:28:07Z")

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Capitol rioter wants out of jail because he doesn’t belong with people who have committed “inner city” crimes.

> **[r/CapitolConsequences - Eye-gouging MAGA terrorist ex-cop whines that he's...](https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitolConsequences/comments/mnmrhx/eyegouging_maga_terrorist_excop_whines_that_hes/)**
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> 10,982 votes and 822 comments so far on Reddit

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/278 "2021-04-09T20:45:10Z")

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I think one of the comments on that thread summed up the real argument behind that “inner city” crimes thing:

> [@](#):
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> You’re treating me like I’m a BLAAAAACCCK PERSOOOON!!!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/279 "2021-04-10T05:28:27Z")

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A Capitol rioter has been re-arrested on charges of plotting to blow up an Amazon Web Services facility. I wonder if it has anything to do with Amazon shutting off Parler.

> **[Alleged Capitol rioter charged with plotting to blow up Amazon data center](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/547420-alleged-capitol-rioter-charged-with-plotting-to-blow-up-amazon-data/)**
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> Federal law enforcement arrested a Texas man this week who is accused of attempting to blow up a data center in Virginia and allegedly boasted about his presence at the Capitol riot on Jan. 6.Feder…

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/280 "2021-04-19T13:33:20Z")

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[Member Of The Oath Keepers First To Plea Guilty In U.S. Capitol Attack Investigation : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2021/04/16/988200830/member-of-the-oath-keepers-first-to-plea-guilty-in-u-s-capitol-attack-investigat)

Plea deal being made higher up on the sedition food chain? Whatever could this mean? It appears the country is about to witness a long line of dominoes falling, and maybe just maybe some actual sedition charges filed for some folks at the Very Top.

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