# The American Coup Fallout thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029 "2021-01-20T22:34:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/21 "2021-01-21T00:35:44Z")
Q Klutz Klan ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/22 "2021-01-21T00:59:28Z")
Isn’t this thread the same thing? > [@Florida Man charged with stealing Speaker's podium](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157): > > Thought it might be useful to have a thread to track the steady grinding of the wheels of the law following the insurrection at the Capitol: And then there’s Desk Man, who has got the US Postal Police on his tail, for stealing mail from the Speaker’s office: And there’s the West Virginia Legislator, who was charged after posting video of himself in the riots, and who has apparently resigned his position: And Horny Fur Man has been arrested: These are the easy, stupid, ones of course;… ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/23 "2021-01-21T03:59:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If you wish to argue otherwise, there is a current discussion, ongoing here: Naw thats in the Pit, so there’s no “discussion”. But altho most of the idiots there werent attempting a coup, I think a few dudes really were. They were going to either: 1. Kill Pence so the results couldnt be read (wouldnt work) 2. Kill or kidnap enuf Dem congress members so the vote would be No (have to kill a lot, but maybe…) 3. Steal the votes so the election would either be thrown to the House or a re-do (nope) ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/24 "2021-01-21T04:06:33Z")
The Flaccid Jihad? ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/25 "2021-01-21T04:22:01Z")
Q coup kachoo ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/26 "2021-01-21T04:29:57Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But altho most of the idiots there werent attempting a coup, I think a few dudes really were. They were going to either: > > 1. Kill Pence so the results couldnt be read (wouldnt work) > 2. Kill or kidnap enuf Dem congress members so the vote would be No (have to kill a lot, but maybe…) > 3. Steal the votes so the election would either be thrown to the House or a re-do (nope) I think it was at root a disorganized mob who would have injured or killed any lawmaker they recognized as D, Pence, or especially Pelosi, AOC or other Squad members, or hell just any black/POC lawmaker. So basically a lynch mob, and there would have been violence on lawmakers but we got sorta lucky (excusing the other 5 deaths). Or what the OP said: in this thread, it’s a coup. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/27 "2021-01-21T04:39:42Z")
I like the title CNN gave their special on the siege: **The Trump Insurrection**. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/28 "2021-01-21T04:46:40Z")
Yeah, whatever name it gets, it needs ‘Trump’ in it prominently. For once it really was all about him. ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/29 "2021-01-21T05:12:23Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Q coup kachoo ‘Q Coup Achoo’ - A slight tweak covers 2020 very nicely ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/30 "2021-01-21T06:41:14Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > “The wet-firecracker Insurrection that scared the shit out of people finally”? I was just thinking about Heinlein’s “Wet Firecracker War” (forget which book it’s in). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/31 "2021-01-21T06:49:36Z")
> **[Feds: Evidence shows well-laid plan by some Capitol insurrectionists](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/fbi-evidence-capitol-insurrection-plan-460836)** > > An FBI affidavit described preparations by the Proud Boys to storm the Capitol, including using earpieces and walkie-talkies to direct movements through the building. Nope, at least for these racist assholes it _was_ a coup. I guess they were following trumps orders. _The new court filings were the latest indications that the Jan. 6 riots included cells of organized, militarized insurrectionists, beyond the rabble of disorganized Trump supporters who joined the fray. That evidence includes the conspiracy case filed this week against three so-called Oath Keepers, members of an Ohio-based chapter of the loosely connected paramilitary group, who face charges of seeking to injure police officers, obstruct Congress and damage federal property._ ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/32 "2021-01-21T08:13:07Z")
The Afternoon of the Short Fingers. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/33 "2021-01-21T11:05:08Z")
Too bad, so sad. > **[Proud Boys turn on ‘weak’ Trump - San Antonio Express, 1/21/2021](http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/SanAntonioExpressNews/shared/ShowArticle.aspx?doc=SAEN%2F2021%2F01%2F21&entity=Ar00901&sk=5C9128F7&mode=text)** > > San Antonio Express - 1/21/2021 What? No loyalty? Fair weather friends! > After the presidential election last year, the far-right Proud Boys declared their undying loyalty to President Donald Trump. > > In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of the messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been stolen from Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote. > > But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Trump had changed. > > “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said on the same Telegram channel Monday. > > As Trump left the White House on Wednesday, the Proud Boys have started leaving him. > > In dozens of conversations on social media sites such as Gab and Telegram, members of the group have begun calling Trump a “shill” and “extraordinarily weak.” They also have urged supporters to stop attending rallies and protests held for Trump or the Republican Party. > > The comments are a startling turn for the Proud Boys, which for years backed Trump and promoted political violence. > > Led by Enrique Tarrio, many of its thousands of members were such die-hard fans of Trump that they offered to be his private militia and celebrated after he told them in a presidential debate last year to “stand back and stand by.” On Jan. 6, some Proud Boys members stormed the U.S. Capitol. > > But since then, discontent with Trump, who later condemned the violence, has boiled over. > > On social media, Proud Boys members have complained about his willingness to leave office and said his disavowal of the Capitol rampage was an act of betrayal. And Trump, cut off on Facebook and Twitter, has been unable to talk directly to them to soothe their concerns or issue new rallying cries. > … ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/34 "2021-01-21T12:46:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Croupella de Vil > > (I was this moment years old when I realized her last name spells ‘devil’. Holy shit. I’m logging off and re-examining my life.) Go cross-post over here 😁 [Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/35 "2021-01-21T12:50:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > How about “That Was the Coup That Wasn’t”? > > People old enough will remember David Frost’s satirical news show, [_That Was the Week That Was_ .](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Was_the_Week_That_Was) I suggest _The Happening_ It’s short, punchy, and will remind people of that terrible M. Night Shyamalan movie. Which is completely appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/36 "2021-01-21T13:37:11Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > Wet Firecracker War” The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Heinlein is my #2 author after Prof. Tolkien. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/37 "2021-01-21T15:38:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said on the same Telegram channel Monday. Wow, I actually agree with the Proud Boys on something. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/38 "2021-01-21T15:41:16Z")
Great title, because associating with the Coup-Coups should be toxic to someone’s future. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/39 "2021-01-21T16:36:15Z")
That’s all heartening to read – for all the wrong reasons. While it’s great that Trump’s fiercest loyalists have turned on him, it’s because, in the end, _he wasn’t awful enough for them_. These idiots will be a problem for decades, no matter what else transpires. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/40 "2021-01-21T16:36:25Z")
One interesting thing is that, based on comments, a lot of those yahoo Insurrectionists truly thought they: 1. Either had Trump’s permission 2. Believed they would get a pardon Especially the higher profile leaders and military vets - they are _incensed_ Trump gave clemency to ‘rappers, jewish financiers, and his Dem buddies’ (in one comment I read) while leaving his white supporters high and dry. I am confident that Jan 6th broke the spine of Trump’s political future. He has none. And I don’t think his kids do either, but 30+ years is a long way to predict. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029.md?page=3)