# The American Coup Fallout thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029 "2021-01-20T22:34:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/421 "2021-06-22T15:13:22Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Do judges give orders to law enforcement officers? I think judges control the marshals (at least in most of the westerns I watch), so he should be able to sic them on Trump. Wonder what the Secret Service does when a protectee gets arrested? ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/422 "2021-06-22T17:08:10Z")
Since he is a private citizen all they can do is observe and make sure his civil rights are not being violated. I would think that he has private body guards that would more aggressively try and interfere will with an attempt to arrest him if they could. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/423 "2021-06-22T17:19:20Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Wonder what the Secret Service does when a protectee gets arrested? I hope we all get to find out soon. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/424 "2021-06-22T17:26:06Z")
I thought I read in an earlier thread about Texas that the term « judge » is a bit misleading and this type of judge is more like a county commissioner? Or am I misremembering ? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/425 "2021-06-22T20:08:34Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > Do judges give orders to law enforcement officers? > > I think judges control the marshals (at least in most of the westerns I watch), so he should be able to sic them on Trump. Wonder what the Secret Service does when a protectee gets arrested? I would presume they would protect him until he gets placed in custody. After that point, they’d be free to do other Secret Service stuff. After a bit of partying down. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/426 "2021-06-22T20:28:44Z")
Insurrectionist wants out of jail because there haven’t been any more riots since 1/6. > **[MAGA rioter says he should be freed because there haven't been any new...](https://www.rawstory.com/maga-rioter-rob-gieswein/?xrs=RebelMouse_fb&ts=1624382208)** > > A man accused of assaulting police officers with a baseball bat during the January 6th Capitol riots says he should be let out of jail before his trial because there haven't been any additional violent pro-Trump rebellions for the last six months.Via... ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/427 "2021-06-22T20:30:16Z")
Hmmm… any connection between those two things? Nah… no chance. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/428 "2021-06-22T21:43:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The guy who sat at Pelosi’s desk says he should be released from jail because he called Pelosi a biatch, not a bitch. I was not aware that we imprison people for calling Senators names. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/429 "2021-06-23T01:17:42Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I thought I read in an earlier thread about Texas that the term « judge » is a bit misleading and this type of judge is more like a county commissioner? Or am I misremembering ? You are correct. In Texas, the County Judge is the head of the Commissioners Court, which is what they call the County Commission in most other states. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/430 "2021-06-23T14:41:30Z")
In other news, man who is in jail pending trial for breaking into jewelry stores and stealing diamonds wants to be released, since there have been no jewelry store break-ins since his arrest. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/431 "2021-06-24T08:43:27Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The guy who sat at Pelosi’s desk says he should be released from jail because he called Pelosi a biatch, not a bitch. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I was not aware that we imprison people for calling Senators names. [Eric Cartman] _WEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL…_ [/Eric Cartman] ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/432 "2021-06-24T22:52:19Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Wonder what the Secret Service does when a protectee gets arrested? In this specific case, policy is to immediately pay up their bets in the Secret Service official “Trump In Cuffs” pool. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/433 "2021-06-25T02:34:48Z")
Rudy Giuliani has had his New York law license [suspended](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/rudy-giuliani-suspended-law/index.html) due to his lies and falsehoods related to the election. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/434 "2021-06-25T02:55:36Z")
About time, too. Why did it take so long? And why haven’t Trump’s other lawyers faced the same. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/435 "2021-06-25T04:43:08Z")
“Patience, young grasshopper.” Unlike crazies holding press conference at garden supply stores, professional discipline moves slowly and carefully, to satisfy the requirements of due process. Here’s an update: > **[With Giuliani’s Law License Suspended, Here Are The Other Trump Lawyers Who...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/06/24/with-giulianis-law-license-suspended-heres-the-other-trump-lawyers-who-may-face-discipline-next/?sh=11e6df7213b3)** > > Rudy Giuliani’s involvement with Trump’s post-election lawsuits resulted in his law license getting suspended—and other Trump allies could be next. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/436 "2021-06-25T05:19:07Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Rudy Giuliani has had his New York law license [suspended](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/rudy-giuliani-suspended-law/index.html) due to his lies and falsehoods related to the election. The CNN article linked by @Superdude, above, contains a further link to the full text of the court’s order suspending Giuliani. It’s worth a read, or at least a skim. [https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/read-giuliani-law-license-ruling/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/read-giuliani-law-license-ruling/index.html) The court listed and described in detail nine instances of Giuliani’s misbehavior – mostly involving “misstatements” (aka “lies”), including his misrepresentations before various courts and before the public about the alleged fraud, all the dead people voting, etc. If you followed all the trumpy news between the election and the inauguration, you will recognize some of the incidents mentioned. Remember the case where Giuliani was screaming all about fraud, but when he got into a court in front of a judge, he said it was not a case about fraud? That’s in this order. It seems that Giuliani and his client (Trump’s campaign) kept changing their stories can couldn’t get their ever-changing stories straight between themselves. And remember the several cases where he tried to claim that whole bunches of dead people had voted in various states? (The numbers of alleged dead voters kept changing.) The order reviews these claims in detail and makes mincemeat of them. All that time we saw Trump’s minions making all those outrageous claims, and we wondered: When are they going to get their whipping for all this shit? Well, it’s happening now, and the order makes clear that Giuliani’s whipping is a direct result of all these specific shitflingings that he did. Schadenfreude indeed. I think @Superdude’s post and these replies really belong in the schadenfreude thread. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/437 "2021-06-25T13:59:21Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Schadenfreude indeed. I think @Superdude’s post and these replies really belong in the schadenfreude thread.- Aw, c’mon… let’s spread the joy around. 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/438 "2021-06-25T17:21:02Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I do not know what went on in trumps disease addled brain, but the coup had no chance at all. Jan. 6 had no real chance of successful overthrow, but could have caused the death of several lawmakers or even Pence. But the real overthrow is still underway. The Repubs are cooking the system so they cannot lose again. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/439 "2021-06-25T18:54:49Z")
Andrew Giuliani, who is running for Governor of New York, said that his daddy was disbarred by “five leftist judges.” ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/440 "2021-06-25T18:57:28Z")
In a video from a parking lot where he chose to place the top of his head in the middle of the frame. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029.md?page=23)