# The American Coup Fallout thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 20, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029 "2021-01-20T22:34:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/502 "2021-07-21T16:44:03Z")

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I hope that’s true. Republicans could have had a bipartisan commission, but they didn’t want one. Fuck 'em.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/503 "2021-07-21T16:45:36Z")

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Oops, thought this was the Pit! My bad.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/504 "2021-07-21T17:19:03Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1417889424910786560?s=19>

However, Kinzinger and Cheney will remain, so Jake is a _little_ incorrect here as it’s not ALL Republicans.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/505 "2021-07-21T20:16:12Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Kinzinger and Cheney will remain, so Jake is a _little_ incorrect here as it’s not ALL Republicans.

Kinzinger is not on the committee.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/506 "2021-07-21T22:03:15Z")

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There’s a push on Twitter to put Kinzinger on the committee. I’d like to see that myself. He’s a good guy.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/507 "2021-07-22T02:06:56Z")

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What does the fox…I mean hat say?

> **[Long-haired MAGA rioter thought shaving his head would help him avoid being...](https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-riot-arrests-2653886199/)**
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> Matthew DaSilva had a signature black-and-gold scarf that he wore every day. But when he sashayed with it at the Capitol riot on January 6, it led two people who know him personally to identify him off on an FBI wanted poster.DaSilva, from Texas,...

A MAGA-style hat that instead has two kana on it. It looks like maybe ガマ, which Google says means bullrush. Is that right? What’s the significance?

Paging @TokyoBayer

Edit: oops I put the order wrong: マガ doesn’t seem to come up with anything in particular.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/508 "2021-07-22T02:54:41Z")

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マガ is the Japanese katakana (phonetic characters) for MAGA, but would be pronounced with the “a” sound and in father and both syllables receiving the same stress.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/509 "2021-07-22T03:27:26Z")

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So simple. I didn’t think about pronounciation.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/510 "2021-07-22T05:10:55Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> マガ is the Japanese katakana (phonetic characters) for MAGA, but would be pronounced with the “a” sound and in father and both syllables receiving the same stress.

Maybe this is a whoosh, but that’s how I say MAGA. How does anyone else say it?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/511 "2021-07-22T05:22:13Z")

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Aye; how else is it pronounced? _A_merica and _a_gain both have the same short vowel sound; why would anyone pronounce it differently?

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**Author:** ![UDS1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47774/32.png) [@UDS1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS1)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/512 "2021-07-22T05:33:11Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Aye; how else is it pronounced? _A_ merica and _a_ gain both have the same short vowel sound; why would anyone pronounce it differently?

According to TokyoBayer, the katakana version would be pronounced with the long vowel sound, as occurs in f_a_ther.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/513 "2021-07-22T06:01:19Z")

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> [@UDS1](#):
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> According to TokyoBayer, the katakana version would be pronounced with the long vowel sound, as occurs in f _a_ ther.

The katakana version is pronounced with the “a” as in f _a_ ther as you posted. In my dialect, this is neither the short “a” sound as in apple or the long “a” sound as in “ace”.

The quoting is showing I’m replying to the wrong post.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/514 "2021-07-22T06:10:23Z")

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Oh.  
I was thinking it was a slightly lower-sounding [aaaaaa.](https://youtu.be/ZlIz0q8aWpA?t=60)

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/515 "2021-07-22T06:50:17Z")

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I’ve always pronounced it like the martial art.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/516 "2021-07-22T07:52:31Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Aye; how else is it pronounced? _A_ merica and _a_ gain both have the same short vowel sound; why would anyone pronounce it differently?

In my dialect, _a_ again is pronounced uh·_gen_ or ( əˈɡɛn IPA ) as the [schwa sound](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa) and not a short “a” such as in _a_ pple. ă’pəl, [IPA](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet)([key](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:English_pronunciation)): /ˈæ.pəl/

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/517 "2021-07-22T11:44:27Z")

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I always thought it was like the first part of _magazine_.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/518 "2021-07-22T11:46:26Z")

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I presume that the English word is pronounced that way. The Japanese kana changes the pronunciation.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/519 "2021-07-22T12:35:07Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I always thought it was like the first part of _magazine_ .

This. Stress on the first syllable.

To almost rhyme with _maggot_.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/520 "2021-07-22T13:16:20Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> To almost rhyme with _maggot_ .

Purely a coincidence, of course.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/521 "2021-07-22T13:30:09Z")

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You pronounce MAGA like “maggot”, but without the “t”.

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