# The American Coup Fallout thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029 "2021-01-20T22:34:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/663 "2022-07-15T20:46:16Z")
Dogs know. They _always_ know. Fuckin’ A, Major, you’re a badass: > **[Biden's dog, Major, bit Secret Service members for 8 days in a row, email says](https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-dog-major-bit-secret-service)** > > President Biden’s German shepherd Major attacked many more people than the White House has disclosed, according to newly released emails. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/664 "2022-07-15T21:34:49Z")
Charming: > **[Poll: Many red-state Trump voters say they'd be 'better off' if their state...](https://news.yahoo.com/poll-many-red-state-trump-voters-say-theyd-be-better-off-if-their-state-seceded-from-us-160454042.html)** > > In a striking rejection of national unity, red-state Trump voters are now more likely to say they’d be personally “better off” than “worse off” if their state seceded from the U.S. and “became an independent country,” according to a new Yahoo... But – as discussed here ad nauseum – it’s nowhere near as easy as “don’t let the door hit ya’ where your Chimerical Lord hit ya’” If only … ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/665 "2022-07-15T22:06:21Z")
Yeah, but those people are idiots. They thought putting Trump in the Oval office was a good choice. They utterly lack the ability to thoughtfully consider the ramifications of their choice. They live in a fantasy where leaving the US doesn’t otherwise alter anything about their lives. They’re really stupid. And proud of it. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/666 "2022-07-15T22:23:06Z")
That story’s a year old, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/667 "2022-07-15T22:44:21Z")
When Major could still smell Trump on them. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/668 "2022-07-15T22:47:55Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > That story’s a year old, you know. I mean, yes. That’s the point. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/669 "2022-07-16T03:40:07Z")
Bye-bye cry guy. > **[MAGA rioters ‘both wept’ as they were sentenced to over 3 years in prison for...](https://www.rawstory.com/j6-cody-mattis-james-mault/)** > > Two supporters of Donald Trump cried in court on Friday as they were sentenced for their role in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol."Two New York state men who led a mob that overwhelmed police at the perimeter of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 —... ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/670 "2022-07-16T04:28:23Z")
Imagine how they all would cry if their sentences were equal to their offences. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/671 "2022-07-16T15:07:44Z")
Compared to what the usual sentence is for a failed revolution, 3 years is a slap on the wrist. They should be thrilled for the leniency. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/672 "2022-07-16T15:11:30Z")
Yes, they should have been crying tears of joy for getting such a light sentence compared to the multiple crimes they committed. What if a pair of black guys had lead a mob and assaulted the police. They would have been shot on the spot. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/673 "2022-07-16T17:51:36Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > They should be thrilled for the leniency. They probably still imagine themselves to be Big Damn Heros American Patriot Action Movie Stars. They want to be celebrated, not officially branded traitors. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/674 "2022-07-16T17:58:32Z")
Welp, that means they needed to win. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/675 "2022-07-16T19:18:24Z")
And unless we are very lucky, the most any of them will serve is 2 years 6 months and 5 days — that is if they started their sentences today. It makes it seem almost futile, ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/676 "2022-07-16T20:15:18Z")
I’d be okay with that if the bigwigs who fomented and set the plot into motion serve 10 - 20. I’m not holding my breath, though. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/677 "2022-07-16T20:22:56Z")
But there’s a good chance that no one will serve, as of today, more than 2 years, 6 months and 5 days and that’s if they start their sentence today. If the bigwigs start their sentences exactly 6 months from today, they will not serve more than 2 years and 5 days. It doesn’t matter what the charges and sentences are, there’s a very good chance no one will remain incarcerated for or face any consequences for January 6th related crimes after January 21st, 2025. That’s why I’m frustrated by the slow pace. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/678 "2022-07-17T00:00:53Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > It doesn’t matter what the charges and sentences are, there’s a very good chance no one will remain incarcerated for or face any consequences for January 6th related crimes after January 21st, 2025. That’s why I’m frustrated by the slow pace. I wish this were not a strong possibility. But I’m convinced that it is. Someone at DOJ who shall remain nameless in this post appears to believe that the USA is in ‘business as usual’ mode, where the Republicans who are in power now are patriots of integrity, and a slow-but-steady approach, accumulating evidence over a number of years and then deciding whether or not to indict, makes all kinds of sense. That’s not the world we’re living in at all. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/679 "2022-07-19T15:19:56Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Send them to a blue state, where everybody knows what a fuckup they are, and they have no choice but to do solid work, in an area with lots of counterfeiting, undoubtedly winning accolades and promotions. That assumes that they are still capable of doing solid work after years of getting by on the ability to kiss the Great Orange Ass. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/680 "2022-07-27T00:26:56Z")
> **[Justice Dept. investigating Trump’s actions in Jan. 6 criminal probe](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/26/trump-justice-investigation-january-6/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com)** > > People familiar with the probe said investigators are examining the former president’s conversations with lawyers and advisers and have seized phone records of top aides. Trump is being investigated by the DoJ. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/681 "2022-07-27T20:51:36Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Trump is being investigated by the DoJ. Certainly his own people knew that they were promoting bullshit theories to try to get Trump to stay in power. The question is, did Trump direct them and/or did he know about these lies? > "“We would just be sending in ‘fake’ electoral votes to Pence so that ‘someone’ in Congress can make an objection when they start counting votes, and start arguing that the ‘fake’ votes should be counted,” Jack Wilenchik, a Phoenix-based lawyer who helped organize the pro-Trump electors in Arizona, wrote in a Dec. 8, 2020, email to Boris Epshteyn, a strategic adviser for the Trump campaign. [https://news.yahoo.com/kind-wild-creative-emails-shed-114712274.html](https://news.yahoo.com/kind-wild-creative-emails-shed-114712274.html) > In a follow-up email, Wilenchik wrote that “‘alternative’ votes is probably a better term than ‘fake’ votes,” adding a smiley face emoji." ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029/682 "2022-07-27T20:57:02Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > In a follow-up email, Wilenchik wrote that “‘alternative’ votes is probably a better term than ‘fake’ votes,” adding a smiley face emoji." From Slate: “Unfortunately for Mr. Wilenchek, an emoji defense would not hold up in court here.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-fallout-thread/931029.md?page=35)