# The Andrew Yang Presidential Campaign thread

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [February 14, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555 "2019-02-14T21:16:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/581 "2020-01-27T14:26:50Z")

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You can go to [the 2/18 Gallup poll](https://news.gallup.com/poll/228194/public-split-basic-income-workers-replaced-robots.aspx) itself to see the breakout to make a bit more apples to apples.

In that Gallup poll before Yang’s campaign it was 65% favorable/35% unfavorable among Democrats and 48%/52% among Independents.

The current Emerson 53% favorable number is just likely Iowa Democratic caucus goers.

Still different varieties of apples but more consistent with a LOSS of support for the idea since Yang than an increase.

Looking at the [Hill/HarrisX September](https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/463055-more-voters-support-universal-basic-income) poll among Democrats it was 66% favorable and Independents ran 48% Favorable - up from their 2/19 poll, less than the newest Emerson results, and on par with Gallups 2/18 numbers.

It would be a bit insane to look at the Emerson number and claim that he’s moved the needle an insane amount on this.

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### Author: ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/582 "2020-01-27T15:46:55Z")

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unless the top 4 people die or drop out Yang is not the nominee.

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/583 "2020-01-27T16:04:24Z")

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Bloomberg is ahead of him now too so that’s 5. But even if they all drop out, I assume people will start liking Klobuchar rather than decide Yang isn’t ridiculous.

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### Author: ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2020, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/584 "2020-01-29T11:26:11Z")

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Yang is leading in a straw poll of young people , edging out Sanders

> <https://twitter.com/EricQuachSpeaks/status/1222333793576480768>

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### Author: ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/585 "2020-01-30T22:02:54Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> It would be a bit insane to look at the Emerson number and claim that he’s moved the needle an insane amount on this.

More discussion continued [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22110835&postcount=28) in the UBI thread in Great Debates.

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### Author: ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/586 "2020-01-30T22:04:14Z")

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Some fun stuff going on in the Andrew Yang campaign.  
[Dave Chappelle phone banking](https://twitter.com/LaCraiMitchell/status/1222656084139220992) for Andrew Yang, ends the call with “Wu Tang”.

Dave Chappelle explaining [why he’s endorsing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=qa71FjmHHxE&feature=emb_logo) Andrew Yang. Dave Chappelle read Yang’s book that he got from a neighbor. Chappelle says that UBi would help so many people in his community in Dayton, OH. Chappelle did an event in Iowa and will be doing two more in South Carolina to benefit Yang.

> [@](#):
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> “I found him inspiring…I think many of the good ideas on the table this year are coming from a single source, Andrew Yang, and for some reason no one’s paying attention.”

Amber Ruffin makes a note of Anita Baker endorsing Andrew Yang with one of Anita Baker’s songs with lyrics about Yang’s campaign on the [Seth Meyers show](https://twitter.com/LateNightSeth/status/1222701617742581761).  
[A partial list of endorsements for Yang.](https://twitter.com/gregorious555/status/1222235884919185408)  
[Yang Gang Gives $1k to Random Strangers in Harlem | Andrew Yang’s Freedom Dividend on Display  
Fatboy SSE and NDO Champ give Harlem a taste of life in Yang’s America](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7crf0mzhws&app=desktop)  
[rappers giving $1K to people in Harlem randomly and telling them about Yang’s UBI, saying help is on the way. the reactions of the people receiving the money is priceless. what they would do with the money is interesting]  
[Yang’s response](https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1222736120930295808) to the video:

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> This is the greatest thing I have ever seen: [https://youtu.be/h7crf0mzhws](https://youtu.be/h7crf0mzhws) This is what we are talking about.

[Newspapers From Elizabeth Warren’s State Endorse Andrew Yang for President](https://www.newsweek.com/newspapers-elizabeth-warrens-state-endorse-andrew-yang-president-1484179)

> [@](#):
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> The Lowell Sun and the Sentinel & Enterprise, which are both owned by MediaNews Group, published a joint endorsement of Yang on Monday, praising him for his willingness to reach out to all voters. The Massachusetts newspapers, which are published in Lowell and Fitchburg respectively, argued that Yang, similar to Trump, would disrupt “the political status quo” but would do so like “a nimble tech startup and not a wrecking ball.”
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> "He is committed to the idea that politics should work in the service of people, or ‘Humanity First’ as his campaign slogan puts it.

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### Author: ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/587 "2020-02-03T17:25:31Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> Some fun stuff going on in the Andrew Yang campaign.  
> [Dave Chappelle phone banking](https://twitter.com/LaCraiMitchell/status/1222656084139220992) for Andrew Yang, ends the call with “Wu Tang”.
> 
> Dave Chappelle explaining [why he’s endorsing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=qa71FjmHHxE&feature=emb_logo) Andrew Yang. Dave Chappelle read Yang’s book that he got from a neighbor. Chappelle says that UBi would help so many people in his community in Dayton, OH. Chappelle did an event in Iowa and will be doing two more in South Carolina to benefit Yang.
> 
> Amber Ruffin makes a note of Anita Baker endorsing Andrew Yang with one of Anita Baker’s songs with lyrics about Yang’s campaign on the [Seth Meyers show](https://twitter.com/LateNightSeth/status/1222701617742581761).  
> [A partial list of endorsements for Yang.](https://twitter.com/gregorious555/status/1222235884919185408)  
> [Yang Gang Gives $1k to Random Strangers in Harlem | Andrew Yang’s Freedom Dividend on Display  
> Fatboy SSE and NDO Champ give Harlem a taste of life in Yang’s America](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7crf0mzhws&app=desktop)  
> [rappers giving $1K to people in Harlem randomly and telling them about Yang’s UBI, saying help is on the way. the reactions of the people receiving the money is priceless. what they would do with the money is interesting]  
> [Yang’s response](https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1222736120930295808) to the video:
> 
> [Newspapers From Elizabeth Warren’s State Endorse Andrew Yang for President](https://www.newsweek.com/newspapers-elizabeth-warrens-state-endorse-andrew-yang-president-1484179)

I agree that a lot of the best new ideas seem to be coming from this one guy but here is the main problem I have with his UBI. UBI solves the problem of automation making human labor redundant but right now and for the forseeable future, employment rates are going to be very low. Why fix a problem we don’t have yet? It’s like moving everyone out of coastal cities today because we think that global warming is going to put those cities under water.

Does the replacing food stamps with UBI solve any of today’s problems?

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/588 "2020-02-06T22:43:44Z")

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Yang slashes his staff. I wonder if the money is drying up? This is similar to Kamala before she dropped out.

> **[Yang fires dozens of staffers after Iowa debacle](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/06/yang-fires-dozens-of-staffers-after-iowa-debacle-111611)**
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> The layoffs extended throughout his organization.

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### Author: ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/589 "2020-02-06T22:58:26Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Yang slashes his staff. I wonder if the money is drying up? This is similar to Kamala before she dropped out.
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> [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/06/yang-fires-dozens-of-staffers-after-iowa-debacle-111611](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/06/yang-fires-dozens-of-staffers-after-iowa-debacle-111611)

Whatever will the Yang Gang do now?

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### Author: ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/590 "2020-02-06T23:04:01Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Yang slashes his staff. I wonder if the money is drying up? This is similar to Kamala before she dropped out.
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> [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/06/yang-fires-dozens-of-staffers-after-iowa-debacle-111611](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/06/yang-fires-dozens-of-staffers-after-iowa-debacle-111611)

The article says that the layoffs were planned before Iowa and that Yang will “keep fighting”.

The rest of the article talks about how the staff they started with had no political experience and when the politically experienced were brought on, there was sometimes a clash of culture. That makes sense. You can see it in the strategies, the traditional methods versus the unconventional methods.

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> The Yang campaign insists it had planned to reduce the size of his organization after Iowa. The official wouldn’t specify the number of people who were fired, but the fired staffers said it was in the dozens. According to FEC reports released last week, the Yang campaign had more than 230 people on staff.
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> “As part of our original plans following the Iowa caucuses, we are winding down our Iowa operations and restructuring to compete as the New Hampshire primary approaches,” campaign manager Zach Graumann said in a statement to POLITICO. “These actions are a natural evolution of the campaign post-Iowa, same as other campaigns have undertaken, and Andrew Yang is going to keep fighting for the voices of the more than 400,000 supporters who have donated to the campaign and placed a stake in the future of our country.”
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> The campaign also disputed that the national and policy directors were “senior” staffers, despite their titles. Spokesman SY Lee said both directors did research and wrote first drafts because they “were not good enough” to have decision-making responsibilities.

Why would you wonder if the money is drying up? In your January 2020 thread, Yang’s donations are higher than ever. That said, their expense run rate is more than they’re taking in. Winding down Iowa operations makes sense right now.

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/591 "2020-02-06T23:28:22Z")

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So how many people have the other campaigns cut?

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### Author: ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/592 "2020-02-06T23:44:01Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> So how many people have the other campaigns cut?

some have cut 100% - Booker, Harris, etc. 🙂

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/593 "2020-02-06T23:57:29Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> The article says that the layoffs were planned before Iowa and that Yang will “keep fighting”.
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> The rest of the article talks about how the staff they started with had no political experience and when the politically experienced were brought on, there was sometimes a clash of culture. That makes sense. You can see it in the strategies, the traditional methods versus the unconventional methods.
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> Why would you wonder if the money is drying up? In your January 2020 thread, Yang’s donations are higher than ever. That said, their expense run rate is more than they’re taking in. Winding down Iowa operations makes sense right now.

The reason I wondered if the money was drying up was that campaigns look at their money coming in every day. And, Yang has been crowded out completely with the recent political news and a Friday night debate isn’t exactly going to help. Every campaign winds down Iowa, but the staff gets transferred to new areas.

I imagine Yang and Steyer will be basically ignored for the Friday debate and it’ll be the last debate for both.

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### Author: ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/594 "2020-02-07T00:42:58Z")

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I expect this time next week he will be out of the race. It’s all fun and games with your cool persona, online gang and niche candidacy in the months leading up but once voting begins it quickly gets old. Caucuses are better for him because the loudest and passionate supporters can mobilize and make the case for him but I expect him to really struggle in a primary.

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### Author: ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)
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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The reason I wondered if the money was drying up was that campaigns look at their money coming in every day. And, Yang has been crowded out completely with the recent political news and a Friday night debate isn’t exactly going to help. Every campaign winds down Iowa, but the staff gets transferred to new areas.
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> I imagine Yang and Steyer will be basically ignored for the Friday debate and it’ll be the last debate for both.

It’s only been 2 days since Iowa. Hopefully, no one is making decisions based on 2 days of data.

Meanwhile, Yang did a CNN town hall in NH that is getting good reviews. I saw a [nice review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqw5VdXDrBw&feature=youtu.be) from the panel at CNN with one guy saying that Yang won the night of CNN town halls.

John Leguizamo was on Colbert [talking](https://twitter.com/ZachandMattShow/status/1224941541107564544) about why he’s endorsing Yang.

Ken Jeong is also doing a fundraiser for Yang shortly.

As for the debate, Yang always gets very little coverage. But he always gets Google searches and gets at least $1M in donations after each debate.

As I was looking through my twitter to find the CNN video, I found this other [article](https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1225517136149458944) by Politico on Elizabeth Warren’s campaign. Maybe it’s just Politico’s day to go on a rampage about the campaigns. These people left since November. It seems a little blown out of proportion.

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> News: Warren’s Nevada team in tumult as 6 staffers, all women of color, have departed the roughly 70-person campaign in the final stretch w/ complaints of a toxic work environment in which they felt tokenized and w/ state senior leadership at loggerheads.

> [@Boycott](#):
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> I expect this time next week he will be out of the race. It’s all fun and games with your cool persona, online gang and niche candidacy in the months leading up but once voting begins it quickly gets old. Caucuses are better for him because the loudest and passionate supporters can mobilize and make the case for him but I expect him to really struggle in a primary.

I was thinking that too, but the last stat I saw, 7K went in for Yang, only about 1-2K came out for Yang because he wasn’t viable. If it was straight voting, the people going in would have voted for Yang.

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
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Are you going to defend “These actions are a natural evolution of the campaign post-Iowa, same as other campaigns have undertaken” from.the campaign manager? And do you buy that the national and policy directors weren’t “senior” staffers?

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### Author: ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/597 "2020-02-07T04:48:08Z")

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Per Open Secrets he has only $3.7 million cash on hand left. Even Klobuchar has more than that. The race gets much more expensive as Super Tuesday approaches.

He’s out after New Hampshire.

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/598 "2020-02-07T04:57:49Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Per Open Secrets he has only $3.7 million cash on hand left. Even Klobuchar has more than that. The race gets much more expensive as Super Tuesday approaches.
> 
> He’s out after New Hampshire.

Pete raised $2.7 million right after Iowa. No one can convince me that Yang did the same

> **[Redirect Notice](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/06/politics/buttigieg-fundraising-after-iowa/index.html)**

Also the debate rules change so he won’t be sucking oxygen up there any longer.

I’ve heard all the DNC conspiracies. And I don’t care. We need Bloomberg’s ass up there and Steyer and Yang to exit stage left

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### Author: ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2020, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/599 "2020-02-07T06:42:50Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Per Open Secrets he has only $3.7 million cash on hand left. Even Klobuchar has more than that. The race gets much more expensive as Super Tuesday approaches.

[FEC reports](https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00659938/1379762) say that Yang had cash on hand of $3.7M on 12/31/19.  
[Open Secrets](https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/candidate?id=N00042308) has the exact same number, so it’s probably from the FEC report. [538](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-fundraising-q4/) has the same number for fiscal 2019.

If that’s the case, the $3.7M doesn’t include the $6.7M from January 2020 or the expenses for January 2020.

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#### Post date: [February 7, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-andrew-yang-presidential-campaign-thread/829555/600 "2020-02-07T11:13:50Z")

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we can vote early for super tuesday starting next week I was voting for Yang but that seems dumb now. I will choose either Pete or Bloomberg .

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