# The answer to your question is Garrison Keillor

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 29, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071 "2017-11-29T18:14:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/1 "2017-11-29T18:14:35Z")

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That is, if you were wondering who is next. He was fired although he had already left his most famous gig.  
[https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/905491001](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/905491001)

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/2 "2017-11-29T18:20:31Z")

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**Garrison Keillor fired for alleged improper behavior by Minnesota Public Radio**

It hardly seems fair that Mr. Keillor should be fired just because Minnesota Public Radio behaved improperly!

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/3 "2017-11-29T18:20:56Z")

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And that’s the news from Lake Woebegone, where the men are good-looking, the women are strong and all the hosts are creepy.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/4 "2017-11-29T18:23:33Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> And that’s the news from Lake Woebegone, where the men are good-looking, the women are strong and all the hosts are creepy.

Chris Thile is NOT creepy! You take that back!

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/5 "2017-11-29T18:29:19Z")

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Garrison Keillor’s op-ed in the yesterday’s Washington Post: [Al Franken should resign? That’s absurd.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/al-franken-should-resign-thats-absurd/2017/11/28/d33e2d8a-d482-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.dd1cbc804ece)

No, that’s ironic.

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/6 "2017-11-29T19:53:23Z")

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> **[Garrison Keillor fired for 'inappropriate behavior'](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/garrison-keillor-fired-minnesota-public-radio-inappropriate-behavior-n824966)**
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> A humorist and radio personality, Garrison Keillor is the latest celebrity to be publicly accused of misconduct while on the job.

Reaction #1 - WTF?

Reaction #2 - Ewwwwwww

Someone at work likened the recent crackdown against workplace inappropriateness to McCarthyism when a single accusation is enough to get you fired and black listed. IDK about all that, but it is amazing how fast these guys are getting bounced. We should start something like a deadpool about who is going to get outed as a workplace perv next.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/7 "2017-11-29T20:07:16Z")

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I certainly hope there was more to it than [his side of the story.](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/garrison-keillor-fired_us_5a1ee935e4b017a311ebcad2?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)

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> He told the Star Tribune the issue was an incident where he put his hand on a woman’s bare back accidentally. “I meant to pat her back after she told me about her unhappiness and her shirt was open and my hand went up it about six inches. She recoiled. I apologized.”

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/8 "2017-11-29T20:12:08Z")

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Duplicate thread:  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=843289](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=843289)

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/9 "2017-11-29T20:19:20Z")

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GOD DAMMIT!

I looked. I swear I looked.

Oh well. Fuck!

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/10 "2017-11-29T20:21:13Z")

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I just asked the mods to close this one.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/11 "2017-11-29T20:31:53Z")

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[Moderating]

Since both threads had about equal amounts of discussion, I’ve merged them.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/12 "2017-11-29T20:35:27Z")

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It will be interesting to see how this develops. What if it happened as he describes? An isolated “wardrobe malfunction” as it were. What do you think the repercussions ought to be?

Ought no person ever touch a coworker on the back? And what if the toucher apologizes, the touchee accepts the apology, and there is no record of repeat behavior?

For the sake of our society, I really HOPE GK turns out to be a creep, who repeatedly and seriously harassed women. Because what he is accused of warrants - at most - an official counseling.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/13 "2017-11-29T20:51:04Z")

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If Keillor is telling the truth, this strikes me as an over-reaction by NPR. If.

My totally unfair observation is, if ever anyone looked the part of a dirty old man who would feel you up if he got a chance, it’s him.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/14 "2017-11-29T20:52:18Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> It will be interesting to see how this develops. What if it happened as he describes? An isolated “wardrobe malfunction” as it were. What do you think the repercussions ought to be?
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> Ought no person ever touch a coworker on the back? And what if the toucher apologizes, the touchee accepts the apology, and there is no record of repeat behavior?

I don’t know how his hand ends up her shirt accidentally.

But no, don’t touch coworkers without their permission. Don’t touch anyone without their permission. You go around work just touching people?

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/15 "2017-11-29T20:54:19Z")

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I imagine Matt Lauer is silently thanking Garrison for getting him off the radar of biggest WTF firing of the day.

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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/16 "2017-11-29T20:56:53Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Ought no person ever touch a coworker on the back? And what if the toucher apologizes, the touchee accepts the apology, and there is no record of repeat behavior?
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> For the sake of our society, I really HOPE GK turns out to be a creep, who repeatedly and seriously harassed women. Because what he is accused of warrants - at most - an official counseling.

Well, it looks like his defense strategy is working well; in spite of the fact that TWO women are mentioned in the press release from NPR, he’s convinced you it’s only a single case. In spite of the fact that an independent investigator was brought in and recommended cutting ties with him, you’re sure the events must be inconsequential because he paints that picture. And even though NPR didn’t actually say exactly what he was accused of, you believe that the tale he’s currently spinning must be the only thing in the accusation (I guess the second woman just turned up but didn’t make a complaint?)

After seeing the pattern in these cases it just boggles my mind that anyone would believe the first ‘oh, it was just a completely innocent pat on the back’ excuse that the accused puts out, especially when the excuse doesn’t even cover the second person complaining.

And it’s even worse when he’s the kind of person who has in the past explicitly argued IN FAVOR of sexual harassment:

> [@http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx\_factor/2017/11/29/garrison\_keillor\_fired\_from\_minnesota\_public\_radio\_amid\_allegations\_of\_improper.html](#):
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> Keillor once brought up the scourge of sexual harassment in an odd address at the National Press Club in 1994. “We should be careful…not to make the world so fine and good that you and I can’t enjoy living in it,” he said. “A world in which there is no sexual harassment at all is a world in which there will not be any flirtation.” He made the same joke in his 2006 book, Homegrown Democrat. Keillor has not yet indicated whether the “interesting” and “complicated” situation that led to his firing involved flirtation, sexual harassment, or both.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/17 "2017-11-29T20:57:27Z")

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As the great Ann Coulter notes, for some reason Garrison isn’t talking so much about what a reprobate Donald Trump is. Enablers like Nancy Pelosi and Cokie Roberts can’t protect every pervert.

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> If Keillor is telling the truth, this strikes me as an over-reaction by NPR.

What about the second woman NPR mentioned, when his ‘truth,’ even if accepted completely at face value, only covers interaction with one?

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-answer-to-your-question-is-garrison-keillor/803071/19 "2017-11-29T21:01:46Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I don’t know how his hand ends up her shirt accidentally.  
> … You go around work just touching people?

I RARELY touch co-workers. Maybe every once in a great while I will tap someone on their shoulder. I doubt I would ever pat a co-worker’s back. But I do not know what is common in other workplaces - including radio theater.

Hell - I remember one time when I was walking down the hall next to a female co-worker. She grabbed my hand and started swinging it - like kids on a playground. I as mortified, hoped no one saw it, and wondered if I should report it - mainly out of fear that I’d have been seen and reported as doing something wrong. But it never happened again, and I was able to make sure my hand never got close enough for that employee to grab.

I don’t know about the specifics. He said her shirt opened or was undone - was it untucked, or one of those button in the back ones? I agree, it does seem odd.

But I stand by my position that the isolated touching of a coworker on the back, followed by an accepted apology and no repeat, warrants - at most - an official counseling to not do it again. In my opinion, women are tough enough, and sexual harassment is serious enough, to not insult everyone by putting this in the same category. Just my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> As the great Ann Coulter notes, for some reason Garrison isn’t talking so much about what a reprobate Donald Trump is. Enablers like Nancy Pelosi and Cokie Roberts can’t protect every pervert.

Wait–is that “enabler of perverts” language yours, or is it actually coming from Ann Fucking Coulter?

If it’s her language, the irony is deep and rich and bitter. If it’s yours, I can’t remember whether you’re a Trump supporter, so I don’t know how ironic it is.

As for Keillor? My 35-year-long loathing of the man is vindicated, I tell you.

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