# The anti-Trump resistance has become exhausted **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 20, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846 "2024-02-20T19:02:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/21 "2024-02-20T21:49:29Z")
I’ll admit that as part of the anti-Trump resistance I am exhausted. In the past if Trump would have posted a Christmas screed against his enemies, or told Putin to attack our allies, I would have been filled with righteous anger at how someone like that could ever be allowed anywhere near the whitehouse. Now its barely gets a shrug of the shoulders from me since its just Trump being Trump. But just because I’ve got outrage fatigue doesn’t mean that I won’t walk 10 miles up hill in a blizzard to cast a vote against him in November. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/22 "2024-02-20T21:49:51Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > > [@Mr.E](#): > > > > At some point, it’s not enough to just be against something, you have to actually fight for something. > > ⁢ > > Yes. As horrid as Trump is, at the end of the day, Republicans are fighting to _get_ someone elected. Democrats are fighting to _prevent_ someone from being elected. ⁢ I’m not sure that’s 100% accurate, but it’s no more true this time than in 2020. There may be a decrease in ferocity right now, but I don’t think anti-Trumpers are any less committed. I actually think the main thing is that Trump isn’t president, and thus not in our face every day. I’ve found him much, much easier to avoid. But I have been pretty passionate against him and defending Biden. Just today, in fact. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/23 "2024-02-20T21:52:25Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But just because I’ve got outrage fatigue doesn’t mean that I won’t walk 10 miles up hill in a blizzard to cast a vote against him in November. ⁢ I suspect that the concern is not them not voting for him, but them not being as enthusiastic in pushing others to vote against him. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/24 "2024-02-20T21:57:14Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Democratic enthusiasm against Trump delivered good election results in 2018, 2020 and 2022 but they are now facing a problem this time: the energy of Trump voters to get Trump elected may be higher than the energy of anti-Trump voters to keep Trump out. It doesn’t take a lot of energy to just not vote for him, and vote Democratic. Though I agree the onslaught of Trump news and Magites is draining. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/25 "2024-02-20T21:59:42Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > It doesn’t take a lot of energy to just not vote for him, and vote Democratic. That’s the thing though. Getting out the vote. Remember, in 2020, Biden got the most votes cast for him in the history of US voting. The second highest vote getter in US history? Trump in 2020. The article is suggesting MAGAts are keen as ever to vote but less so dems. And that is a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/26 "2024-02-20T22:00:31Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Yes. As horrid as Trump is… That’s giving horrid a bad name. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/27 "2024-02-20T22:06:03Z")
As was observed by Jon Lovett in “Pod Save America” Trump & Biden are both investigated for the possession of classified national defence documents. The Special Counsel finds Trump in breach of regulations and he is then indicted a federal grand jury for possession and resisting attempts to retrieve these documents. The Special Counsel concludes that for Biden no criminal charges are warranted but he is described as “_sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory_”. And Biden is the one with a political problem? ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/28 "2024-02-20T22:08:55Z")
Well, if the news is full of shit like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1au26u3/maga_goons_take_over_highway_99_in_california_to/?rdt=58777&force_seo=1) and [this](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/neo-nazis-tennessee/), and stories of Trump’s crimes taking center stage are not enough to energize Dem voters, then all is lost. Frankly, part of the problem is running stories like the one linked in the OP. It’s not the rank and file Dems that is the problem, it’s the media’s perception that drags spirits down. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/29 "2024-02-20T22:12:14Z")
Yeah. The “Anti Trump Resistance” is a permanent thing. The loudness and astonishment may ebb and flow, but the ballot box is where the sentiment is truly expressed. Republicans have been underperforming since annointing Trump as their criminal King, and if “The Resistance” only speaks quietly, and only at the ballot box, I think the results will speak enough. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/30 "2024-02-20T22:13:58Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > The Special Counsel finds Trump in breach of regulations … In breach of **laws**. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/31 "2024-02-20T22:17:17Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > What I am exhausted of is the constant grifting for money from every Dem in the country everytime Trump says or does something stupid, How is this grift? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/32 "2024-02-20T22:39:02Z")
The Republican Party hasn’t had a presidential platform since Romney ran against Obama in 2012. The GOP isn’t for anything. They have no guiding principles. Everything is in service to Trump’s ego. That’s not being for something. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/33 "2024-02-20T23:04:32Z")
Yeah it’s awful. I stopped donating to politicians and started giving to World Central Kitchen. Some good is guaranteed to be done. I have _not_ seen any evidence that they sold my email address. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/34 "2024-02-20T23:07:45Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > What I am exhausted of is the constant grifting for money from every Dem in the country everytime Trump says or does something stupid, like its the end of the world if I don’t contribute. Bugs me too. I forget the democratic group I donated to some years ago (a well known, big name one) but, once I did, every week (sometimes more often) there was another text message/email about the NEW CRISIS! WE NEED MONEY NOW! So annoying…I worked diligently to sever myself from those pleas for money. To be fair…this is not unique to dems. It seems they all do it, no matter the side or the message. I don’t like engaging in whataboutism but, in this case, since they all do it, it seems worth noting. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/35 "2024-02-20T23:11:39Z")
It doesn’t take that much enthusiasm or excitement to vote – and so far, since '22, Democratic voters have shown up for pretty much every election. At this point I see no reason to believe this is changing, NYT constant “Democrats in disarray” silliness notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/36 "2024-02-20T23:28:56Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > NYT constant “Democrats in disarray” silliness Like I said… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/37 "2024-02-21T00:38:10Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > The Special Counsel concludes that for Biden no criminal charges are warranted but he is described as “_sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory_”. The fucking partisan Republican Special Counsel does not like Biden and wants him to lose the election so he gives his unnecessary and bullshit opinion that Biden is old. It was a partisan hatchet job up there with the bullshit Hilary Clinton “investigation”. I’m just surprised they did not pull this bullshit 2 weeks before the election. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/38 "2024-02-21T00:44:41Z")
Really? You think that’s bizarre? There are LOTS of people who aren’t particularly progressive or particularly Democrat who specifically voted against Trump in 2020, and not _for_ Joe Biden. It’s a crucial distinction; being on the side of democracy and decency doesn’t mean you _like_ Biden, it means you vote for him, because the alternative is voting for Trump. And I think a lot of these people are still out there. The ones who see Trump as a threat to democracy aren’t going to vote for him in any event. But there are somehow, against all sense and logic, people out there who are not Democrats, MAGA morons, and nor are they committed to voting to preserve our system of government from a clear and present threat. These are the people who _scare_ me the most; at this point in recent history, what sort of mush-headed lunatic do you have to be to NOT know which way you’re going to vote? What sort of mental anemia does that take? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/39 "2024-02-21T00:49:13Z")
The claim wasn’t that there are some voters who are voting against Trump rather than for Biden, or even that the Biden campaign woos those voters. The claim was that the Democrats are _only_ running against Trump, and aren’t running _for_ anything, which is patently false. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-anti-trump-resistance-has-become-exhausted/997846/40 "2024-02-21T00:53:09Z")
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