# The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 25, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949 "2013-03-25T21:15:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/201 "2013-03-27T07:35:03Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > **This post has been tanned by the Tangent!** **YOU** have WAY too much time on your hands! ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/202 "2013-03-27T08:04:32Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Heres what I don’t get. > > If we had been to the moon (and by we, I mean countries with money), well it stands to reason that we would now have people living on the moon. QED. When the irish discovered America, people soon followed and started to live there. When the Irish discovered Australia and sent the British off to prison there, people soon followed and started to live there. > > So do you mean to say that we found the moon, and nobody followed to live there? Pah, that wouldnt make any sense at all, so you just have to doubt that we ever found the moon at all. In the documentary, Men In Black III, there is a maximum-security prison on the moon called Lunarmax. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/203 "2013-03-27T08:06:03Z")
Thank you for the NASA link, O **Great Antibob**. Perhaps I can offer [this link](http://www.plognark.com/?q=node/1129), in return. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/204 "2013-03-27T09:04:46Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > When the Irish discovered Australia and sent the British off to prison there, people soon followed and started to live there. Those Irish were tenacious buggers, considering [these](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coracle) were their only sailing vessels at the time. I don’t think that design translates so well for travelling to the moon. Maybe that’s where they went wrong. ---
**Author:** ![StrangeBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@StrangeBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StrangeBird)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/205 "2013-03-27T10:19:34Z")
The OP (well, what little I read of it before my brain shut down in self-defense) reminds me of this xkcd comic: > **[Moon Landing](https://xkcd.com/1074/)** > > Ok, so Spirit and Opportunity are pretty awesome. And Kepler. And New Horizons, Cassini, Curiosity, TiME, and Project M. But c'mon, if the Earth were a basketball, in 40 years no human's been more than half an inch from the surface. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/206 "2013-03-27T11:07:18Z")
Cosmored, I have a good friend that had a console in the front row at mission control for Apollo 13. He’s clearly visible in most of the documentaries I’ve seen. Since he retired from NASA, he’s become something of a anti-government guy. In spite of this, he can tell me in amazing detail what happened during the mission. Why would he do that since it obviously never happened? ---
**Author:** ![Cosmored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Cosmored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmored)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/207 "2013-03-27T11:07:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Seriously, you’re trying to use a guy that only uses HALF of the science required only to bolster your position? You also know what an atmosphere (on Earth) does that doesn’t happen on the Moon which explains a lack of detail AND reflective light artifacts from overexposure of the top of the equipment in order to get the darker regolith? > > A: Diffuse sky radiation. > > The scattered light evens out the lighting on the landscape on Earth, which smooths out the contrast of brightness that otherwise is not observable on the Moon. > > As for the vehicle tracks, you got nothing there either. There are many different types of surfaces on the Moon and like Earth, vehicle tracks may be very pronounced (in sand, silt, dust, etc.) or nearly undetectable (hard surfaces, packed gravel, rocky layers, same reflective properties, etc.). Just to pull a page out of your playbook, missing tracks are for you to prove that the soil there is the former and not the later. Why don’t you go there and let us know what you find? The bottom line is that photos can be faked. Therefore, photos aren’t proof of anything. Do you maintain that those photos prove the moon missions were real? > [@](#): > > The proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked in a water tank is so clear that only a disinfo agent would say it was real. > [Opposingdigits | Discover the magic in everyday moments.](http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222) > > Let’s hear everybody’s view on the Chinese spacewalk? Do you say it was real, or faked? > Could care less about the Chinese spacewalk, it has nothing to do with your topic…your thread is specifically titled “The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio”. Stick to the topic, since this is your Pandora’s Box that you opened. You guys tend to be slippery eels when it comes to this nuttery. NASA’s official position is that the Chinese spacwalk was real. It is therefore relevant to the Apollo discussion. Here’s a link to the proof that the Chinese space walk was faked. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147) I want to hear your opinion. Was it faked, or real? > [@](#): > > [http://astroprofspage.com/archives/162](http://astroprofspage.com/archives/162) > > Quote: > The wire mesh is sewn into the fabric so that the flag will appear to stand out straight in the absense of wind. But, a flag sticking straight out from the pole doesn’t look natural. So, the astronauts often would extend the flag and bend ripples into it so that it looked more like it were wAS12-47-6897.jpgaving. Look at video of the astronauts moving around the flag. It looks like it is waving, but it is frozen in position as the astronauts move by. It doesn’t actually wave. I’m referring to this particular clip. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Gn6MTrin5eU/hqdefault.jpg "Apollo 15 flag, facing air resistance; proving the fraud of alleged manned moon landings.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU) (2:35 time mark) The flag is still until the astronaut trots past it. It starts to move just before he gets close to it the way it would in atmosphere. Your article didn’t address this specific issue. Please address it. > [@](#): > > And so the fucking flag moved? Did you guys ever thought of the energy from the footsteps by the flag transferred to the base of the flag to shake it slightly from the ground? If the regolith there is soft, it would be easy to jump on by and compact the soil under the foot to push it towards the flag pole. If this were the case, the pole and the support rod would have moved. There is no movement of the pole or rod. > [@](#): > > The proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked in a water tank is so clear that only a disinfo agent would say it was real. > [Opposingdigits | Discover the magic in everyday moments.](http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums...pic.php?t=1222) > > ## Let’s hear everybody’s view on the Chinese spacewalk? Do you say it was real, or faked? > > It was real and you are quite deluded, how the hell can you do this crap all over the internet on every forum you can find? > > [http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co](http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co)…ks-part-1.html > > By the way, that spurstalk forum has some real gems, looks like you are getting a real butt kicking. The whole web must be loaded with disinfo agents, either that or you are a paranoid freak. You said the Chinese spacewalk was real so you seem to be a disinfo agent. > [@](#): > > Vibration from footsteps, The pole and the rod would have moved and the nature of the flag’s movement wouldn’t have been consistent with the atmosphere explanation. > [@](#): > > settling of the upright into the support The flag moves slightly away from the astronaut, and then moves toward him the way it would in atmosphere. If the upright had settled, the flag would have bounced up and down. > [@](#): > > camera effect from blooming, This video show it to be actual movement. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/oFMpmjEv9o0/hqdefault.jpg "The flag that moved") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) > [@](#): > > kicked regolith. No regolith can be seen hitting the flag. He’s also too close to it. He would have had to be farther away when it started moving if kicked regolith had hit it. > [@](#): > > static discharge from the astronaut’s suit The flag moved away from him and then toward him with even more force. If static discharge were the explanation, it would have had to repel the flag and, if that were the case, it wouldn’t have moved back in the opposite direction with even more force. > [@](#): > > Consider the Bad astronomy site I linked to; it points out that in the videos the dust kicked up by the vehicles rises and falls in perfect parabolas in a manner you can only achieve in a vacuum. So did the government build a giant vacuum chamber of the sort that, to the best of anyone’s knowledge, you can’t build with today’s technology? Were there tiny wires on every dust mote? Can the government change the laws of physics? The dust doesn’t form perfect prabolas. If you get a good view of it, it’s obvious. Watch the dust here at the 1:56 time mark. https://www.youtube.com/embed/BL7jumgfelA?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/208 "2013-03-27T11:29:12Z")
Hm. Cosmo, as in Cosmonaut. Red, as in Communist. I’ve had enough of your disinformation. You’re clearly a commie pinko mole. Or prove you’re not, Redski. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/209 "2013-03-27T11:42:32Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Hm. Cosmo, as in Cosmonaut. Red, as in Communist. > > I’ve had enough of your disinformation. You’re clearly a commie pinko mole. > > Or prove you’re not, Redski. Clearly, all _his_ videos have been faked. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/210 "2013-03-27T12:00:02Z")
Videos can be faked. Therefore they were faked. Therefore conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Sid\_Snot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Sid\_Snot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sid_Snot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/211 "2013-03-27T12:05:38Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > If this were the case, the pole and the support rod would have moved. There is no movement of the pole or rod. Art ye blind? Of course the pole moves. All you need to do is download it and take a couple of frame grabs. > [@](#): > > You said the Chinese spacewalk was real so you seem to be a disinfo agent. It was real. You said it wasn’t, so you seem to be a paranoid conspiracy freak who labels sensible, informed, non gullible people as disinfo agents because they disagree with you. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/212 "2013-03-27T12:12:30Z")
It’s not much of a conspiracy if people of limited intelligence can see through it so easily. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/213 "2013-03-27T12:43:58Z")
Okay. If the Apollo moon landings were fake, just how did they manage to take all those pictures of the [long range anomalies](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=82431)? Huh? Huh? Answer me that, Cosmonaut! ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/214 "2013-03-27T12:45:16Z")
**Cosmored** , what would it take to convince you that the moon landing was real? If photographs, eyewitness testimony, and scientific data are not enough, then what exactly are you looking for in terms of ironclad proof? Or will nothing short of you time traveling through a wormhole back to 1969 and landing on the moon yourself alongside Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins be enough for you? ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/215 "2013-03-27T13:15:26Z")
I remember hoax believers a few years ago swearing up and down that if new photos were taken of the landing sites, they would be convinced of the reality of Apollo. When the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter photos came out the goalposts were moved. “Not clear enough.” “Those dots could be anything.” There is no evidence that will ever convince an HB. They are too emotionally invested in the hoax. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/216 "2013-03-27T13:19:32Z")
I don’t think anything short of actually taking **Cosmo** to the moon would convince him. Were it worth the money and effort, I’d contribute to the fund for such a trip. For him and a few more imbecils like him. And fucking leave them there, with a flag. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/217 "2013-03-27T13:24:01Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Clearly, all _his_ videos have been faked. Not _ **Red Dawn** _ baby, that was a documentary. Wolverines! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/218 "2013-03-27T14:02:40Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I don’t think anything short of actually taking **Cosmo** to the moon would convince him. “How do I _know_ that those are windows looking out into the inky blackness of the void? They could be TV screens! Therefore, they ARE TV screens, and this is all a fake!” “Pfft. Call this a low-gravity field? I could do this in my backyard pool!” “Look, I’ll prove it - I’ll just pop off my helm…” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/219 "2013-03-27T14:07:02Z")
> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#): > > **Cosmored** , what would it take to convince you that the moon landing was real? If photographs, eyewitness testimony, and scientific data are not enough, then what exactly are you looking for in terms of ironclad proof? Or will nothing short of you time traveling through a wormhole back to 1969 and landing on the moon yourself alongside Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins be enough for you? If he stands next to Collins on the surface, then it was definitely a fake! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/220 "2013-03-27T14:52:31Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I don’t think anything short of actually taking **Cosmo** to the moon would convince him. Were it worth the money and effort, I’d contribute to the fund for such a trip. For him and a few more imbecils like him. And fucking leave them there, with a flag. :smack: Kickstarter, here we come! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949.md?page=12)