# The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 25, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949 "2013-03-25T21:15:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/221 "2013-03-27T15:12:41Z")

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> [@Cosmored](#):
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> You said the Chinese spacewalk was real so you seem to be a disinfo agent.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the end of the thread.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/222 "2013-03-27T15:24:12Z")

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> [@Cosmored](#):
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> You said the Chinese spacewalk was real so you seem to be a disinfo agent.

Ooh, can I be a disinfo agent too? The Chinese spacewalk was real! Please?

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/223 "2013-03-27T15:26:09Z")

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What is the pay of a disinfo agent?

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/224 "2013-03-27T15:29:19Z")

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> [@Levolor\_the\_Blind](#):
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> (The British faked the moon landing to cover up that an eccentric inventor and his dog did it first.)

LIES! It was Belgian newspaper reporter and HIS dog who got there first!

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/225 "2013-03-27T15:30:22Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> I’ve had enough of your disinformation. You’re clearly a commie pinko mole.
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> Or prove you’re not, Redski.

He isn’t. We had nothing to do with this.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/226 "2013-03-27T15:30:48Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> What is the pay of a disinfo agent?

It’s right up there with a double naught spy.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/227 "2013-03-27T15:33:35Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> What is the pay of a disinfo agent?

When you work as a disinfo agent, you pay salary to your employer. The longer hours you work, the more you pay, and when you are demoted you pay more.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/228 "2013-03-27T15:42:32Z")

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> [@Olentzero](#):
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> LIES! It was Belgian newspaper reporter and HIS dog who got there first!

He had help and did not go alone!

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/229 "2013-03-27T15:48:30Z")

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> [@Cosmored](#):
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> The evidence that the Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio is crushing. The US government can’t censor the evidence that’s on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation.

I think [this](http://zapatopi.net/afdb/)will make it much clearer than all those links.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/230 "2013-03-27T15:50:49Z")

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> [@Cosmored](#):
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> NASA’s official position is that the Chinese spacwalk was real. It is therefore relevant to the Apollo discussion. Here’s a link to the proof that the Chinese space walk was faked.  
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147)
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> I want to hear your opinion. Was it faked, or real?

[THREAD=533623]Asked and answered[/THREAD]

Aside from your ability to post links to [YouTube.com](http://YouTube.com) videos purporting to discover indications of hoax so blatant that they went right past professional analysts and engineers, what special experience or training do you have in physics, engineering, or photographic and video interpretation that permits you to have a uniquely credible opinion on this topic?

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/231 "2013-03-27T15:51:37Z")

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; if the government was willing to pay me to sit on my ass and argue with Truthers and other conspiracy theorists on obsolete message boards populated mostly by old-timers and liberals, **I WOULD TAKE THAT JOB.**

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/232 "2013-03-27T16:02:16Z")

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Here’s something I’ve never understood and haven’t seen explained anywhere: why would, according to these conspiracy theorists, the government care to fake this?

The moon landing brought Americans together, culminated a series of steps taken by the government to increase our technology and science, and ultimately may be part of the reason why the Soviets spent themselves into a hole they couldn’t get out of. Plus it was really cool.

Why should we care if its fake or not? It was a great event. What’s the harm in faking that?

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/233 "2013-03-27T16:09:18Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; if the government was willing to pay me to sit on my ass and argue with Truthers and other conspiracy theorists on obsolete message boards populated mostly by old-timers and liberals, **I WOULD TAKE THAT JOB.**

You’d take that job if I didn’t already have it! Neener neener neener!

We went to the moo-oon!  
We went to the moo-oon!  
We went to the moo-oon!  
They’re taking the hobbits to Isen… (Oops, wrong song.)  
We went to the moo-oon!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/234 "2013-03-27T16:16:20Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Why should we care if its fake or not? It was a great event. What’s the harm in faking that?

You just can’t handle the TRUTH!

M-O-O-N. That spells crypto-illuminati-communo-fascist conspiracy theory!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/235 "2013-03-27T17:34:56Z")

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> [@MonkeyMensch](#):
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> They’re taking the hobbits to Isen… (Oops, wrong song.)

Who got salami? Who got salami?

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**Author:** ![Cosmored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Cosmored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmored)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/236 "2013-03-27T17:52:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> ## If this were the case, the pole and the support rod would have moved. There is no movement of the pole or rod.
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> Art ye blind? Of course the pole moves. All you need to do is download it and take a couple of frame grabs.

Put this video on full screen and start watching at the 1:08 time mark.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/oFMpmjEv9o0/hqdefault.jpg "The flag that moved") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0)

There’s no movement of the pole or rod.

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> ## You said the Chinese spacewalk was real so you seem to be a disinfo agent.
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> It was real. You said it wasn’t, so you seem to be a paranoid conspiracy freak who labels sensible, informed, non gullible people as disinfo agents because they disagree with you.

Let’s hear your explanation of the anomaly of the buoyant safety cables.  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147)

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> Okay. If the Apollo moon landings were fake, just how did they manage to take all those pictures of the long range anomalies? Huh? Huh? Answer me that, Cosmonaut!

This page…  
[http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=seethruart](http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=seethruart)

…in post #1 of your link can’t be seen by non-members. I checked up to the middle of page three without finding a link that led to anything that looked like an anomaly. Most of the links were dead. Why don’t you post a picture so I’ll know what you’re talking about?

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> Cosmored, what would it take to convince you that the moon landing was real? If photographs, eyewitness testimony, and scientific data are not enough, then what exactly are you looking for in terms of ironclad proof?

I haven’t seen anything that would convince a thinking person that they really went. Lot’s of the photos have clear anomalies. Eyewitnesses can lie. Scientist can be bribed to lie.

Here’s that link that I already posted which shows that the government can find scientists willing to lie.  
[http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597](http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597)

There are some experts listed on this page who say the moon missions were faked.  
[http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon\_Hoax](http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax)

When two groups of experts are saying opposite things, that usually means that one group has sold out or is being intimidated and is lying.

If a space mission really happened, there will be a mountain of proof that it happened and zero proof that it didn’t happen. If a space missions is faked, there will be proof that it was faked and no proof that it was real. Apollo was obviously faked because there’s no conclusive proof that it was real and there’s a mountain of proof that it was faked.

> [@](#):
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> Asked and answered
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> Aside from your ability to post links to [YouTube.com](http://YouTube.com) videos purporting to discover indications of hoax so blatant that they went right past professional analysts and engineers, what special experience or training do you have in physics, engineering, or photographic and video interpretation that permits you to have a uniquely credible opinion on this topic?

In this thread to which you linked I see nothing but lame attempts at obfuscation.

> **[Did China fake a space shuttle expedition?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=533623)**
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> Does anyone want to counter the claims in this youtube video?

Why don’t we discuss the buoyant safety cables which I mentioned above?

One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to recognize obvious buoyance in water.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/237 "2013-03-27T18:04:22Z")

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> [@Cosmored](#):
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> There’s no movement of the pole or rod.

Well, he’s just not into ya.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/238 "2013-03-27T18:12:09Z")

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> [@Cosmored](#):
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> I haven’t seen anything that would convince a thinking person that they really went.

You are not a thinking person. You are a delusional idiot: a complete moron. You have the reasoning power of a three year old. (Baboon.)

You need psychiatric help.

You are a threat to yourself and to others.

You wouldn’t know scientific evidence if it walked up and Buzz Aldrined you in the face.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/239 "2013-03-27T18:23:07Z")

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> [@Cosmored](#):
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> \<snip\>

You are wrong. Everything you have said and every one of your links for this whole thread has been wrong. We’ve been to the moon. Why would we fake it? Getting there takes a lot of planning and resources, but with time and resources (and we had both) it’s not terribly difficult to go. We went there six times.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/240 "2013-03-27T18:26:32Z")

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Cosmored, why do you care if it was faked or not? What difference does it make to you?

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