# The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 25, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949 "2013-03-25T21:15:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/241 "2013-03-27T18:30:25Z")
[And here’s now they did it!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw) ---
**Author:** ![KermitTheFrig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/47e85d/32.png) [@KermitTheFrig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KermitTheFrig)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/242 "2013-03-27T18:33:37Z")
So what? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/243 "2013-03-27T19:33:27Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > The bottom line is that photos can be faked. Therefore, photos aren’t proof of anything. Do you maintain that those photos prove the moon missions were real? > > NASA’s official position is that the Chinese spacwalk was real. It is therefore relevant to the Apollo discussion. Here’s a link to the proof that the Chinese space walk was faked. > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147) > > I want to hear your opinion. Was it faked, or real? > > I’m referring to this particular clip. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU) > (2:35 time mark) > > The flag is still until the astronaut trots past it. It starts to move just before he gets close to it the way it would in atmosphere. Your article didn’t address this specific issue. Please address it. > > If this were the case, the pole and the support rod would have moved. There is no movement of the pole or rod. > > You said the Chinese spacewalk was real so you seem to be a disinfo agent. > > The pole and the rod would have moved and the nature of the flag’s movement wouldn’t have been consistent with the atmosphere explanation. > > The flag moves slightly away from the astronaut, and then moves toward him the way it would in atmosphere. If the upright had settled, the flag would have bounced up and down. > > This video show it to be actual movement. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) > > No regolith can be seen hitting the flag. He’s also too close to it. He would have had to be farther away when it started moving if kicked regolith had hit it. > > The flag moved away from him and then toward him with even more force. If static discharge were the explanation, it would have had to repel the flag and, if that were the case, it wouldn’t have moved back in the opposite direction with even more force. > > The dust doesn’t form perfect prabolas. If you get a good view of it, it’s obvious. Watch the dust here at the 1:56 time mark. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7jumgfelA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7jumgfelA) > [@Cosmored](#): > > Put this video on full screen and start watching at the 1:08 time mark. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) > > There’s no movement of the pole or rod. > > Let’s hear your explanation of the anomaly of the buoyant safety cables. > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147) > > This page… > [http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=seethruart](http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=seethruart) > > …in post #1 of your link can’t be seen by non-members. I checked up to the middle of page three without finding a link that led to anything that looked like an anomaly. Most of the links were dead. Why don’t you post a picture so I’ll know what you’re talking about? > > I haven’t seen anything that would convince a thinking person that they really went. Lot’s of the photos have clear anomalies. Eyewitnesses can lie. Scientist can be bribed to lie. > > Here’s that link that I already posted which shows that the government can find scientists willing to lie. > [http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597](http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597) > > There are some experts listed on this page who say the moon missions were faked. > [http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon\_Hoax](http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax) > > When two groups of experts are saying opposite things, that usually means that one group has sold out or is being intimidated and is lying. > > If a space mission really happened, there will be a mountain of proof that it happened and zero proof that it didn’t happen. If a space missions is faked, there will be proof that it was faked and no proof that it was real. Apollo was obviously faked because there’s no conclusive proof that it was real and there’s a mountain of proof that it was faked. > > In this thread to which you linked I see nothing but lame attempts at obfuscation. > [Did China fake a space shuttle expedition? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=533623) > > Why don’t we discuss the buoyant safety cables which I mentioned above? > > One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to recognize obvious buoyance in water. Where’s the Tangent when you need him? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/244 "2013-03-27T19:43:07Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > We’ve been to the moon. Why would we fake it? Getting there takes a lot of planning and resources, but with time and resources (and we had both) it’s not terribly difficult to go. We went there six times. It would have been \*easier \*to just go to the damn Moon already than to execute such an elaborate ruse, and keep such a massive program a complete secret for all this time. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/245 "2013-03-27T19:48:44Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It would have been \*easier \*to just go to the damn Moon already than to execute such an elaborate ruse, and keep such a massive program a complete secret for all this time. Unless we are all actually in an elaborate simulation and really being used to power a giant computer complex by our waste body heat… Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Cosmored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Cosmored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmored)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/246 "2013-03-27T19:55:28Z")
> [@](#): > > It would have been easier to just go to the damn Moon already than to execute such an elaborate ruse, and keep such a massive program a complete secret for all this time. Go to post #1 and read the part about space radiation. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/247 "2013-03-27T19:58:04Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > Go to post #1 and read the part about space radiation. What the fuck’s so bad about space radiation? Look what it did for The Fantastic Four! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/248 "2013-03-27T20:01:24Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > Go to post #1 and read the part about space radiation. The views you quote and cite about “space radiation” are incorrect and misleading. “Space radiation” is not even close to an insurmountable problem for manned space exploration. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/249 "2013-03-27T20:02:41Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Unless we are all actually in an elaborate simulation and really being used to power a giant computer complex by our waste body heat… That’s what they \*want \*you to think. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/250 "2013-03-27T20:09:13Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > Go to post #1 and read the part about space radiation. For those of us that don’t have a few dozen spare hours to go through each of your hundred-odd linked videos, which one addresses this issue? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/251 "2013-03-27T20:12:13Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > Go to post #1 and read the part about space radiation. I’m sure it’s not the first time you’ve heard this, nor will it be the last: You’re a fucking moron, **Cosmored**. If by some miracle there happens to be a single person that you manage to convince with this horseshit then you should feel good about yourself because you’ve possibly found someone who is indeed a bigger idiot than even you. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/252 "2013-03-27T20:13:53Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > For those of us that don’t have a few dozen spare hours to go through each of your hundred-odd linked videos, which one addresses this issue? > > Stranger Out of context quote from Dan Goldin in 1994 that states that without protection from cosmic radiation, mankind will never venture more than 250 miles from earth. This CTer apparently took this to mean there was a “death radius” around earth, therefore an admission the Apollo astronauts couldn’t have made it out to the moon and survived. Of course, it ignores the fact he’s talking long term exposure and not the short term exposure the astronauts received nor the fact we already know they faced enhanced cancer risk or the fact that elevated exposure to radiation is only so quickly fatal in cases of extremely high doses of radiation. Classic conspiracy theory drivel. It’s just more of the stupid. The stupidity doesn’t even burn at this point. It’s just tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/253 "2013-03-27T20:43:34Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Cosmored, I have a good friend that had a console in the front row at mission control for Apollo 13. He’s clearly visible in most of the documentaries I’ve seen. Since he retired from NASA, he’s become something of a anti-government guy. In spite of this, he can tell me in amazing detail what happened during the mission. Why would he do that since it obviously never happened? Obviously, the government is letting him say anti-government stuff since he _knows_ the moon missions were faked. Once he spills the beans, they disappear him. :eek: > [@QuickSilver](#): > > I don’t think anything short of actually taking Cosmo to the moon would convince him. \“To the moon, Cosmo!!!”\ ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/254 "2013-03-27T20:59:59Z")
Sure, don’t you know how many people who “worked on the Apollo program” are dead _already_? ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/255 "2013-03-27T21:17:41Z")
I’d love to see Cosmored explain all this to Buzz Aldrin. 'Cause Buzz, he flew in Korea, and shot down 2 MiGs. I don’t think he’d take much crap from a pinko. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/256 "2013-03-27T21:45:27Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Where’s the Tangent when you need him? 😕 **Here I am, citizen. What may I help you with? Oh, I see the problem…** > [@Cosmored](#): > > The bottom line is that photos can be faked. Therefore, photos aren’t proof of anything. Do you maintain that those photos prove the moon missions were real? > > NASA’s official position is that the Chinese spacwalk was real. It is therefore relevant to the Apollo discussion. Here’s a link to the proof that the Chinese space walk was faked. > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16134985&postcount=147) > > I want to hear your opinion. Was it faked, or real? > > I’m referring to this particular clip. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU) > (2:35 time mark) > > The flag is still until the astronaut trots past it. It starts to move just before he gets close to it the way it would in atmosphere. Your article didn’t address this specific issue. Please address it. > > If this were the case, the pole and the support rod would have moved. There is no movement of the pole or rod. > > You said the Chinese spacewalk was real so you seem to be a disinfo agent. > > The pole and the rod would have moved and the nature of the flag’s movement wouldn’t have been consistent with the atmosphere explanation. > > The flag moves slightly away from the astronaut, and then moves toward him the way it would in atmosphere. If the upright had settled, the flag would have bounced up and down. > > This video show it to be actual movement. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) > > No regolith can be seen hitting the flag. He’s also too close to it. He would have had to be farther away when it started moving if kicked regolith had hit it. > > The flag moved away from him and then toward him with even more force. If static discharge were the explanation, it would have had to repel the flag and, if that were the case, it wouldn’t have moved back in the opposite direction with even more force. > > The dust doesn’t form perfect prabolas. If you get a good view of it, it’s obvious. Watch the dust here at the 1:56 time mark. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7jumgfelA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7jumgfelA) **You don’t have to thank me.** ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/257 "2013-03-27T21:54:36Z")
_Fans self and swoons._ Isn’t he great? ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/258 "2013-03-27T21:57:29Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [And here’s now they did it!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw) Brilliant! Thanks for sharing that nugget! > [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > I’d love to see Cosmored explain all this to Buzz Aldrin. > > 'Cause Buzz, he flew in Korea, and shot down 2 MiGs. I don’t think he’d take much crap from a pinko. [Maybe he already did.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=tRBesDx1WQc) Yeah, it’s what you think it is. And in Soviet Russia, info disagents you! ---
**Author:** ![Sid\_Snot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Sid\_Snot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sid_Snot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/259 "2013-03-27T22:38:16Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > Put this video on full screen and start watching at the 1:08 time mark. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) > > There’s no movement of the pole or rod. Sheesh, are you insane? That tiny little box in the top corner, wow, so easy to see - not. Try this one: https://www.youtube.com/embed/E4gbMT-Zs2Y?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PL5B072595E7EC7210&start=64 It moves, it’s probably the flagpole settling into the staff with a little vibration. Simple. It could be the camera bloom, since the whole section seems to push out to the right in one movement. It’s not air, that’s just moronic. Air doesn’t work that way. > [@](#): > > Let’s hear your explanation of the anomaly of the buoyant safety cables. More moronic claims. Why would they a) use buoyant cables in the first place b) if it was an issue, you don’t think one of their speshul faking team would have noticed? The cable, like all wound steel would be stored onto a drum when manufactured. As the debunking a moron link says, it’s probably simple shape memory. [http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-1.html](http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-1.html) You don’t have a reply to this other than the writer of your own debunking blog is a shill/disinfo agent. Yeah, whatever. > [@](#): > > One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to recognize obvious buoyance in water. One does need a braincell to see that there is no shimmering of light from currents and refraction - especially with all the lighting obvious in the scene. The most glaring, mind bogglingly obvious sign that it is not in water and in a vacuum is the totally unrestricted way the flag spins around. In water, no matter what speed you do it at, the flag folds back and billows from the liquid. You are one messed up dude, you’ve been peddling this shit for so long it has addled your brain. ---
**Author:** ![KermitTheFrig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/47e85d/32.png) [@KermitTheFrig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KermitTheFrig)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/260 "2013-03-27T22:56:42Z")
The best piece I read on this whole thing was very recent. The gist of it was that while we did (barely) have the technology to get men to the moon and back in 1969, we DID NOT have the technology capable of faking the moon landing. In particular, the ability to capture that much unedited footage at high speed and play it back (to simulate their 1/5th gravity jumping around) for such a long uninterrupted broadcast was not possible with the film technology available at the time. It was, in fact, easier to go to the moon than it would have been to fake it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949.md?page=14)