# The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 25, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949 "2013-03-25T21:15:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/281 "2013-03-28T14:04:42Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Despite the fact that during solar eclipses we can **see** the moon passing in **front** of the sun?? :dubious: I think they have to cover their eyes or something. Some kind of commandment, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/282 "2013-03-28T14:10:52Z")
> [@KermitTheFrig](#): > > Here’s what I was talking about. > > [Why the Moon Landing Could Not Have Been a Hoax - It Wasn't Technologically Possible to Fake It - The Scholarly Kitchen](http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/01/25/why-the-moon-landing-could-not-have-been-a-hoax-it-wasnt-technologically-possible-to-fake-it/) That’s a lovely bit of documentary. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/283 "2013-03-28T15:17:23Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Latecomer to the thread, but if it hasn’t already been asked then I will: why? Why _fake_ the landings? It’s pretty obvious that by the latter 1960’s both the US and the USSR had the ability to send really big things up into the sky on rockets. Are the Moon Hoax advocates claiming we **couldn’t** send people to the moon, so we had to fake it? Apparently it is the radiation. Which is, in fact, a problem…if you fly through the Van Allen belts (which are generally higher than Low Earth Orbit, and that which Lunar and interplanetary missions, both manned and unmanned, take pains to avoid). It is also a problem if you spend months in interplanetary space during high solar activity, or fly in a near-Jovian orbit, or pass too close to the Sun where coronal mass ejections are concentrated. But in general it is a problem that is manageable by using some realistic planning and accepting a certain threshold of risk. This is an example of an actual problem with space exploration which, while significant is not the kind of immediate showstopper that the o.p. wants to claim it to be. And, generally speaking, solar and cosmic radiation is harder on avionics (which have to be built to be fault tolerant and redundant) than people, who are able to tolerate moderate levels of ionizing radiation and self-repair, albeit with potential long term concerns about damage to genomes and gametes. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/284 "2013-03-28T17:15:45Z")
[QUOTE=Docta G] The fuck up: shut it. [/QUOTE] +1. And while yer at it, **Cosmoron** , [zip it](http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WSS4dOe8Ul8). ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/285 "2013-03-28T17:55:37Z")
If anything, this thread has shown me there are some things on which conservatives and liberals can agree: Originally posted by **Cosmored** : “Judging from your replies nobody has examined the evidence I posted in post #1. The evidence shows the moon missions were faked. If you think it doesn’t, say why.” Reply from **SarasotaRepub** : "Cosmored…we’ve had people like you here before. NO ONE is going to waste their time picking apart your posts. Please engage on some other topics. 🙂 " Source is Post #42 (!) from this thread: [http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?9002-We-Never-Went-to-the-Moon/page5](http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?9002-We-Never-Went-to-the-Moon/page5) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/286 "2013-03-28T18:29:18Z")
> [@Toucanna](#): > > If anything, this thread has shown me there are some things on which conservatives and liberals can agree: > Originally posted by **Cosmored** : > “Judging from your replies nobody has examined the evidence I posted in post #1. The evidence shows the moon missions were faked. If you think it doesn’t, say why.” > > Reply from **SarasotaRepub** : > "Cosmored…we’ve had people like you here before. NO ONE is going to waste their time picking apart your posts. Please engage on some other topics. 🙂 " > > Source is Post #42 (!) from this thread: > [http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?9002-We-Never-Went-to-the-Moon/page5](http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?9002-We-Never-Went-to-the-Moon/page5) People from all over the Internet have been calling this guy an idiot for 5 years now and he’s still at it. Un-fucking-believable. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/287 "2013-03-28T19:32:54Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Look, you obviously don’t know anything about intelligence work. It’s an X-K-Red-27 technique. My father was an intelligence agent, Mr. Manfranjensen, and I know perfectly well that when you’re faking a moon landing you don’t go posting videos of it all over the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/288 "2013-03-28T19:33:17Z")
The thing I don’t get with the moon hoax stuff is why it seems to matter so much. If 911 was an inside job I can see the CT nuts thinking someone needs to answer for the the 3000 lives. If contrails are poisoning the American people someone needs to answer for the lives. But if all we did was fake a moon landing to scare the Russians, so-the-fuck what? Maybe the OP could answer. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/289 "2013-03-28T19:34:52Z")
You know, this reminds me of a large dog escaping the confines of his master’s property and goes throughout the neighborhood sniffing, peeing or even dropping a big steamy pile (read: massive posts and links) on everyone else’s lawn, hoping to gain territory by marking it any way possible, only to have the neighbors starting to keep a collective vigilance by hosing the dog every time he enters a neighbors lawn…eventually, the dog learns that the vigilance of the neighbors is overwhelming enough to deter him from coming around again and again. Stay vigilant, my neighbors. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/290 "2013-03-28T19:46:43Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > You know, this reminds me of a large dog escaping the confines of his master’s property and goes throughout the neighborhood sniffing, peeing or even dropping a big steamy pile (read: massive posts and links) on everyone else’s lawn, hoping to gain territory by marking it any way possible, only to have the neighbors starting to keep a collective vigilance by hosing the dog every time he enters a neighbors lawn…eventually, the dog learns that the vigilance of the neighbors is overwhelming enough to deter him from coming around again and again. > > Stay vigilant, my neighbors. I’m afraid it will have the exact opposite effect. Whores love attention. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/291 "2013-03-28T19:50:19Z")
I have to concur. Cosmo is eating up all of this derision with a spoon. ---
**Author:** ![Cosmored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Cosmored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmored)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/292 "2013-03-28T19:51:38Z")
> [@](#): > > The views you quote and cite about “space radiation” are incorrect and misleading. “Space radiation” is not even close to an insurmountable problem for manned space exploration. You’re basing your opinion on what you read in the mainstream. Go back and read this again. [http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597](http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597) > [@](#): > > Out of context quote from Dan Goldin in 1994 that states that without protection from cosmic radiation, mankind will never venture more than 250 miles from earth. > > This CTer apparently took this to mean there was a “death radius” around earth, therefore an admission the Apollo astronauts couldn’t have made it out to the moon and survived. > > Of course, it ignores the fact he’s talking long term exposure and not the short term exposure the astronauts received nor the fact we already know they faced enhanced cancer risk or the fact that elevated exposure to radiation is only so quickly fatal in cases of extremely high doses of radiation. Classic conspiracy theory drivel. > > It’s just more of the stupid. The stupidity doesn’t even burn at this point. It’s just tiresome. He’s referring to this which is from post #1. > [@](#): > > ## [Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos](http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/) (excerpt) > > There is an old saying that “A liar needs a good memory”. Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat. > Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier. To be sure that the above was taken out-of-context we’d have to have a video of this guy talking. Until then, we can’t be sure. The only people who know for sure what the nature and levels of space radiation are are people with high security clearances who have access to the data collected by space probes. The rest of us only have what governments make public which can’t be varified without sending up a space probe. (see first link in the post) The link to the article is dead but I still have the quote. > [@](#): > > ## http://hey\_223.tripod.com/bulldoglebeautaketooooo/id82.html (excerpt) > > To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL > OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques > to > disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA, > unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any > really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.] > Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data, > one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the > likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125) The anomalies in the photos and video footage have already proven the hoax (see post #1). I put forward space radiation as a possible reason for why they had to fake it. > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Cosmored > Put this video on full screen and start watching at the 1:08 time mark. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) > > There’s no movement of the pole or rod. > > Originally Posted by Cosmored > Put this video on full screen and start watching at the 1:08 time mark. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) > > There’s no movement of the pole or rod. > > Originally Posted by Cosmored > Put this video on full screen and start watching at the 1:08 time mark. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) > > There’s no movement of the pole or rod. > > * * * > > Sheesh, are you insane? That tiny little box in the top corner, wow, so easy to see - not. > > Try this one: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL5B072595E7EC7210&v=E4gbMT-Zs2Y&feature=player\_detailpage#t=64s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL5B072595E7EC7210&v=E4gbMT-Zs2Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=64s) > > It moves, it’s probably the flagpole settling into the staff with a little vibration. Simple. It could be the camera bloom, since the whole section seems to push out to the right in one movement. It’s not air, that’s just moronic. Air doesn’t work that way. The video you posted was made by BetaMax who is a known shill. Here’s a link to a post in which he is discussed. (post #3957) > **[SpursTalk.com Forums](https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=132&p=6317012&viewfull=1#post6317012)** > > The SpursTalk forum is the place for San Antonio Spurs fans to hang out and discuss the San Antonio Spurs. Check out the message board for all the latest information about the San Antonio Spurs. The hotlinks in that link go to a discussion I had with him using the username “Scott”. He tried to obfuscate the clear proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked so we know he’s capable of saying things he doesn’t believe himself. He probably doctored the video of his that you posted. As Jarrah White once said, you pro-Apollo people seem to have a special ability not to be able to see what everyone else can see. Put this video on full-screen and start watching the flag in top left corner. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/oFMpmjEv9o0/hqdefault.jpg "The flag that moved") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) The pole and rod do not move. BetaMax doctored his video. If vibration were the cause of the flag’s movement, the movement wouldn’t be consistent with that of a person’s trotting by it at about a forty five degree angle. The flag would bounce up and down. It wouldn’t move slightly away from the astronaut and then go back with even more force. The movement of the flag can be seen in slow-motion in the above video and it’s obviously movement and obviously not camera bloom. > [@](#): > > More moronic claims. Why would they a) use buoyant cables in the first place b) if it was an issue, you don’t think one of their speshul faking team would have noticed? The cable, like all wound steel would be stored onto a drum when manufactured. As the debunking a moron link says, it’s probably simple shape memory. You can see the discussion that I had with that shill BetaMax about the buoyant safety cables here. [http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/211182-man-has-landed-moon-july-20-1969-sir-questions-sir-12.html#post4767755](http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/211182-man-has-landed-moon-july-20-1969-sir-questions-sir-12.html#post4767755) The cables move in a way that’s one hundred percent consistent with the buoyance explanation. If it were shape memory, they wouldn’t only move in an upward direction. > [@](#): > > The most glaring, mind bogglingly obvious sign that it is not in water and in a vacuum is the totally unrestricted way the flag spins around. In water, no matter what speed you do it at, the flag folds back and billows from the liquid. The fast flag movement can be explained by sped-up video. https://www.youtube.com/embed/lBL98p0wZ7g?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque (1:50 time mark) to be continued… ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/293 "2013-03-28T20:02:55Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > The video you posted was made by BetaMax who is a known shill. I think this here is one of many things that speaks to the crux of the ‘issue’, if you won’t believe the links others put up, why should anyone believe yours? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/294 "2013-03-28T20:07:57Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > To be sure that the above was taken out-of-context we’d have to have a video of this guy talking. Not the video, dumbfuck. The entire concept of unacceptably high radiation levels beyond Earth’s magnetosphere (here, let me spell that out for the peanut which passes for your brain m-a-g-n-e-t-o-s-p-h-e-r-e). > [@Cosmored](#): > > BetaMax who is a known shill. I don’t like Sony either, but BetaMax died in the 80s. Let it go, dude. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/295 "2013-03-28T20:13:42Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > You’re basing your opinion on what you read in the mainstream. Go back and read this again. No, I’m basing my “opinion” on science, dumbfuck- this is the field of my degree. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/296 "2013-03-28T20:21:05Z")
**Cosmored** , I don’t suppose you are going to respond to questions on how the government used space telescopes that didn’t exist yet to coerce thousands of scientists into keeping quiet. Please let me know so I tell if you are a crackpot or not. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/297 "2013-03-28T20:22:32Z")
There’s a **Cosmored** on YouTube which I assume is our friend here. > **[Cosmored](https://www.youtube.com/user/Cosmored)** > > Share your videos with friends, family, and the world It appears he’s also a 9/11 truther and a Holocaust denier. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/298 "2013-03-28T20:35:36Z")
Well of course he is. ---
**Author:** ![Cosmored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Cosmored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmored)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/299 "2013-03-28T20:36:54Z")
(from post #260) > [@](#): > > we DID NOT have the technology capable of faking the moon landing. Please tell us how you’re in a position to know what kind of classified technology they had then. > [@](#): > > it’s perfectly reasonable that the flag pole was shaken during that time (at closest proximity), and therefore not observable to us Watch this at the 00:45 time mark. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/oFMpmjEv9o0/hqdefault.jpg "The flag that moved") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dW9qcL4LiUg/hqdefault.jpg "Initial Apollo 15 Flag Movement") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg) The major movement of the flag started before he got close enough to touch it. Tell us what caused the shaking. > [@](#): > > As for the flag moving BEFORE the astronaut passed in front of it, the pole was already covered by the astronaut when it was moving, Anyone who actually watches the video can see that’s not so. > [@](#): > > which doesn’t rule out the pole being shaken as the astronaut walks by. If it had been shaken, the pole and rod would have moved. > [@](#): > > As for the up and down bouncing motion, I’m not sure you would be able to conclusively deduce that not knowing how the energy was transferred to the pole. Depending on how it was transferred, it would still act very similar to a pendulum in a vacuum since the flag was hanging vertically although it was stiff (tensile strength?) vertically as well, so it would be easier for the energy to be dissipated from side to side movement. If the rod had caused the movement, we would be able to see the rod moving. The movement by the rod would have caused the top of the flag to move. Anyone can hang a light piece of cloth from a ceiling light and trot by it at about a forty five degree angle and exactly duplicat the movement of the flag. > [@](#): > > As for your accusation that the Chinese and NASA sleeping in the same bed and relevant to your smoke and mirrors logic, I think it matters not what the Chinese did in 2009 and what NASA thinks about it, as compared to what NASA did in 1969. Different era, different technologies, different ideologies, different political/social/economical/etceralogical environment. Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes. The fact that NASA’s official position on the Chinese spacewalk is that it was real is very telling. It may be trying to stay in good with China but the fact that you pro-Apollo posters maintain that it was real shows that you’re all a bunch of shills who don’t even believe your own arguments. > **[Opposingdigits | Discover the magic in everyday moments.](https://opposingdigits.com)** > > No found posts, Please add a new post for this query or change the block settings: Edit Page No found posts, Please add a new post for this query or change the block settings: Edit Page No found posts, Please add a new post for this query or change... > [@](#): > > Here’s what I was talking about. > > [Why the Moon Landing Could Not Have Been a Hoax - It Wasn't Technologically Possible to Fake It - The Scholarly Kitchen](http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/01/25/why-the-moon-landing-could-not-have-been-a-hoax-it-wasnt-technologically-possible-to-fake-it/) The guy in that video ignores the clearest proof (such as the flag waving as the astronaut trotted by it without touching it) and focuses on stuff that’s easier to obfuscate. > [@](#): > > Of course one has to check other possibilities, the most likely then is that the astronaut just brushed the flag. Jarrah White dealt with this guy here. [http://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=moonfaker+flagging+the+dead+horses&aq=f](http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=moonfaker+flagging+the+dead+horses&aq=f) It’s already been shown that the flag started moving before he got close enough to touch it. The speed of the movement and the length of time it moves can be explained by slow-motion. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/MW31fOWzY-E/hqdefault.jpg "MoonFaker: The Penny Drops. PART 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW31fOWzY-E) Here’s another one exposing an attempt by shills to mislead people. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/I7yc2rVOs00/maxresdefault.jpg "windyz.wmv") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00) > [@](#): > > Latecomer to the thread, but if it hasn’t already been asked then I will: why? Why fake the landings? It’s pretty obvious that by the latter 1960’s both the US and the USSR had the ability to send really big things up into the sky on rockets. Are the Moon Hoax advocates claiming we couldn’t send people to the moon, so we had to fake it? The anomalies show the missions were faked. Our not knowing exactly why they had to fake it doesn’t make those anomalies go away. There are plausible scenarios such as space radiation. Go to post #1 to see some stuff about space radiation. > [@](#): > > The thing I don’t get with the moon hoax stuff is why it seems to matter so much. If 911 was an inside job I can see the CT nuts thinking someone needs to answer for the the 3000 lives. If contrails are poisoning the American people someone needs to answer for the lives. But if all we did was fake a moon landing to scare the Russians, so-the-fuck what? > > Maybe the OP could answer. There are a lot of people who aren’t objective about the proof that 9/11 was an inside job because they just can’t believe the government would lie like that. [http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144746](http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144746) If they see that Apollo was faked, they might be more objective about 9/11. This video is for people in denial about 9/11 but it applies to the Apollo hoax too. https://www.youtube.com/embed/mEGgAk1AbA4?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque > [@](#): > > It appears he’s also a 9/11 truther and a Holocaust denier. The people who question the official version of the holocaust don’t exactly deny that it happened. They say it was exaggerated and distorted. Here’s a thread I started on that. > **[Holocaust Deniers are Really Holocaust Minimizers\[W: 471,841\]](https://debatepolitics.com/threads/holocaust-deniers-are-really-holocaust-minimizers-w-471-841.137086/)** > > I started doing a little research into this and there is an expert on gas chambers that says the chambers at Auschwitz were mockups and wouldn't have functioned because they weren't airtight. > gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter - YouTube > (6:00 time... ---
**Author:** ![Sid\_Snot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Sid\_Snot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sid_Snot)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/300 "2013-03-28T20:40:40Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > The video you posted was made by BetaMax who is a known shill. You gigantic turnip. Your whole case is blown out of the toilet and your defense is to label someone as a shill. You had your sorry butt kicked. According to you, everybody who disagrees with you is a shill. The reality is that you are a moronic fool who has a mental illness going back 5 years. It beggars belief that you post the same shit on every forum you come across. Elaborate please on this “known shill”. Evidence of this? > [@](#): > > The hotlinks in that link go to a discussion I had with him using the username “Scott”. He tried to obfuscate the clear proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked so we know he’s capable of saying things he doesn’t believe himself. So your defence is that because he kicked your butt on another stupid conspiracy claim, that means he must be an evil shill who disbleieves what he writes. You pathetic s.o.b. > [@](#): > > He probably doctored the video of his that you posted. Only probably? No he didn’t, that video is exactly correct. It is really easy to download and setup a couple of frame grabs to verify this. The clear proof you are wrong tells me that you are a sad internet troll with absolutely no intent to debate. Are you paid to spread this disinfo? > [@](#): > > The pole and rod do not move. BetaMax doctored his video. No he didn’t. Prove it, go ask stupid Jarrah to verify it. > [@](#): > > If vibration were the cause of the flag’s movement, the movement wouldn’t be consistent with that of a person’s trotting by it at about a forty five degree angle. The flag would bounce up and down. It wouldn’t move slightly away from the astronaut and then go back with even more force. The movement of the flag can be seen in slow-motion in the above video and it’s obviously movement and obviously not camera bloom. Total hogwash. Your lack of logic and scientific acumen is really impressive. > [@](#): > > You can see the discussion that I had with that shill BetaMax about the buoyant safety cables here. The cables move in a way that’s one hundred percent consistent with the buoyance explanation. If it were shape memory, they wouldn’t only move in an upward direction. Total hogwash. It’s shape memory. > [@](#): > > The fast flag movement can be explained by sped-up video. No it can’t. There is no billowing from the water and no force whatsoever that causes it to be anything other than free moving. You are as deluded a person as I have come across - troll. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949.md?page=16)