# The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 25, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949 "2013-03-25T21:15:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/141 "2013-03-26T19:10:23Z")
Blithering idiot blithers. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/142 "2013-03-26T19:11:33Z")
Wow, we had a covert government agent here on the SDMB?! That… is SO cool! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/143 "2013-03-26T19:12:00Z")
Wait, you’re citing David Icke to prove former doper Phil is a government dupe? Get yourself a large cactus. The kind with the big heavy spikes. Lube it up real good. Bend over and shove it up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/144 "2013-03-26T19:12:32Z")
Let’s see… this is the pit, right? Cosmored, you’re a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/145 "2013-03-26T19:14:08Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > Bad Astronomy is a government damage-control site. There’s some info on that here. The Bad Astronomer was a regular poster on the SDMB a while back. You’re not going to get any traction with your BS on that score. > [@Cosmored](#): > > Tell us what made the flag move at the 2:35 time mark of this clip. Good Lord, you’re a fucking idiot. Please, Please, Please …tell me you haven’t bred yet, so there’s hope for the human race, yet. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/146 "2013-03-26T19:15:06Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Wait, you’re citing David Icke to prove former doper Phil is a government dupe? > > Get yourself a large cactus. The kind with the big heavy spikes. Lube it up real good. Bend over and shove it up your ass. I think the proper lube for something like this is Super-Glue. ---
**Author:** ![Cosmored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Cosmored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmored)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/147 "2013-03-26T19:18:39Z")
> [@](#): > > A couple of years ago I had an exchange with one nutter who implied that the Chinese manned flight had been faked Here’s a partial summary of the proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked. https://www.youtube.com/embed/NVbBFwdmldA?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kG4Z_r38ZDE/hqdefault.jpg "About paper and bubbles of ShenzhouVII") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE) https://www.youtube.com/embed/lBL98p0wZ7g?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque https://www.youtube.com/embed/IW__oOciq2c?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque > **[The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos](https://www.theepochtimes.com/)** > > Get the latest breaking news, in-depth reporting, and insightful analysis on a wide range of topics, including politics, culture, and world events | The Epoch Times is a trusted source for real news and information that is free from influence and... > **[The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos](https://www.theepochtimes.com/)** > > Get the latest breaking news, in-depth reporting, and insightful analysis on a wide range of topics, including politics, culture, and world events | The Epoch Times is a trusted source for real news and information that is free from influence and... In this video the safety cable is obviously buoyant. It has a distinct tendency to to upward. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gMxQEHfU6hM/hqdefault.jpg "China Shenzhou 7 Space Walk Live!! Full Success!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMxQEHfU6hM) Watch it at these time marks. 0:50 2:10 3:00 3:10 6:08 6:44 6:53 It’s going upward because it’s slightly lighter than water. Watch the first video on the list at the 3:45 time mark to see the astronaut holding the buoyant safety cable down so that its buoyancy won’t be so obvious. At the thirty second mark in this clip the astronaut moves the flag from right to left. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/MvpPknmHGAM/hqdefault.jpg "Chinese Space Walk - 2008") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvpPknmHGAM) The flag flutters the way it would in a medium such as water. The fast flag movement can be explained by sped-up video. https://www.youtube.com/embed/lBL98p0wZ7g?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque (1:55 time mark) > [@](#): > > Isn’t there a website devoted specifically to debunking this nonsense? > [http://www.clavius.org/](http://www.clavius.org/) I dealt with that in post #94. Here’s a link to it. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16133621&postcount=94](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16133621&postcount=94) > [@](#): > > It’s been mentioned before, but worse yet, you don’t have to be in the coalition of governments to own a telescope. Or radio gear. Or other equipment to track the missions. Who knows? There may have been a few people who were able to verify that it was being faked but the owned press would never have printed anything they tried to tell them. There may have been an unmanned craft actually flying the route to fool people. There are plausible explanations to explain all of this and it doesn’t make the mountain of hoax proof go away. > [@](#): > > Didn’t the OP see the Mythbusters episode where they proved we left stuff behind on the moon? Or are the Mythbusters in on the conspiracy too? See post #94. Reflectors on the moon are not proof that there were people on the moon as adjustable reflectors can be attached to the sides of unmanned remote-controlled craft. https://www.youtube.com/embed/sKainIQiaKA?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque (3:26:18 time mark) > [@](#): > > All this bullshit you foolishly spew has been DISPELLED INSTANTLY by the LRO a few years ago. No it wasn’t. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mRE7grId3sI/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGGUgZShlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLBBwAch-zWb5sXDjTqFYD8OPT-coQ "The proof that the LRO photos are photoshopped") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OKj5fckUX-c/hqdefault.jpg "MoonFaker: LRO at 50km. PART 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Qc2kijG8YdY/hqdefault.jpg "MoonFaker: LRO at 25km, Dead Ends & No Fly Zones. PART 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/148 "2013-03-26T19:25:04Z")
Kids, this is a perfect example of why you shouldn’t do drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/149 "2013-03-26T19:26:28Z")
@ **Cosmored** : seriously and no joking, I gotta ask: What do you get out of believing what you do about the lunar landing(s)? The image of the world that you have chosen to build around yourself sounds like a scary and threatening place. Truly, I say unto you, step into the light of rational thought. You’ll feel _much_ better–I promise! ---
**Author:** ![Cosmored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Cosmored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmored)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/150 "2013-03-26T19:26:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Wait, you’re citing David Icke to prove former doper Phil is a government dupe? I started this thread on the David Icke forum. [http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628](http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628) David Icke himself did not make any posts on it. David Icke has some crazy theories about reptilians, etc. I think he’s working for the establishment. One strategy they us is to have a crazy person defend a conspiracy theory which discredits the theory. This video is an example. https://www.youtube.com/embed/4nk-oua_DaQ?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque The idea that Apollo was a hoax is defended in the video but they also talk about mile-long space creatures. I think this video was an idea of a public-relations expert hired by the US government. I posted on the David Icke forum but I am no fan of his. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/151 "2013-03-26T19:27:44Z")
> [@Big\_Norse](#): > > [NASA doesn’t think there’s much left of them:](http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloFlags-Condition.html) > > > [@NASA](#): > > > > “Bleached”, “disintegrated”, “ashes”, “rough shape”, and “tattered”. Intuitively, experts mostly think it highly unlikely the Apollo flags (See Platoff’s article Where No Flag Has Gone Before: Political and Technical Aspects of Placing a Flag on the Moon for details), could have endured the 42 years of exposure to vacuum, about 500 temperature swings from 242 F during the day to -280 F during the night, micrometeorites, radiation and ultraviolet light, some thinking the flags have all but disintegrated under such an assault of the environment. > > Whoops, got beat to the punch! That really puts the difficulties of building a manned lunar base into perspective. Might be fun to visit, but I wouldn’t wanna live there! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/152 "2013-03-26T19:27:46Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > Here’s a partial summary of the proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked. > > [http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA](http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA) > [http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z\_r38ZDE](http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE) > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g) > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW\_\_oOciq2c](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW__oOciq2c) > [The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos](http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/8332/) > [The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos](http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/5809/) > > In this video the safety cable is obviously buoyant. It has a distinct tendency to to upward. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM) > > Watch it at these time marks. > 0:50 > 2:10 > 3:00 > 3:10 > 6:08 > 6:44 > 6:53 > > It’s going upward because it’s slightly lighter than water. > > Watch the first video on the list at the 3:45 time mark to see the astronaut holding the buoyant safety cable down so that its buoyancy won’t be so obvious. > > At the thirty second mark in this clip the astronaut moves the flag from right to left. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvpPknmHGAM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvpPknmHGAM) > > The flag flutters the way it would in a medium such as water. > > The fast flag movement can be explained by sped-up video. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g) > (1:55 time mark) > I dealt with that in post #94. Here’s a link to it. > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16133621&postcount=94](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16133621&postcount=94) > Who knows? There may have been a few people who were able to verify that it was being faked but the owned press would never have printed anything they tried to tell them. There may have been an unmanned craft actually flying the route to fool people. There are plausible explanations to explain all of this and it doesn’t make the mountain of hoax proof go away. > See post #94. > > Reflectors on the moon are not proof that there were people on the moon as adjustable reflectors can be attached to the sides of unmanned remote-controlled craft. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKainIQiaKA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKainIQiaKA) > (3:26:18 time mark) > No it wasn’t. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI) > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c) > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY) Yes, but all of the links you’ve posted so far are easily refuted [by this one.](http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/15933/1/Dangers-of-Self-Medication.html) ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/153 "2013-03-26T19:32:50Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Your logic doesn’t follow. Just because we’ve discovered a place does not mean that people will want to live there. > > Delaware is my cite. Logic? What’s logic got to do with anything? This is a moon hoax thread. ---
**Author:** ![Cosmored](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Cosmored](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmored)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/154 "2013-03-26T19:33:01Z")
> [@](#): > > Yes, but all of the links you’ve posted so far are easily refuted by this one. The proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked in a water tank is so clear that only a disinfo agent would say it was real. > **[Opposingdigits | Discover the magic in everyday moments.](https://opposingdigits.com)** > > No found posts, Please add a new post for this query or change the block settings: Edit Page No found posts, Please add a new post for this query or change the block settings: Edit Page No found posts, Please add a new post for this query or change... Let’s hear everybody’s view on the Chinese spacewalk? Do you say it was real, or faked? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/155 "2013-03-26T19:36:30Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > I addressed that in post #1. > > > [@](#): > > > > ## [http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159](http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159) (excerpts) > > > > Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked? > > > > A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require. The Hubble telescope was put into orbit in 1990. What kept the astronomers quiet for the previous twenty years? And if the government was using the threat of cutting astronomers off from a telescope that didn’t exist yet, why did the government cancel all funding for the Hubble in 1974? What would they use for a threat? > [@](#): > > Bad Astronomy is a government damage-control site. There’s some info on that here. > [http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628](http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628) So the Bad Astronomy site is run by giant, shape-shifting lizards? This explains much. > [@](#): > > Tell us what made the flag move at the 2:35 time mark of this clip. > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU) Astronaut farts. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/156 "2013-03-26T19:37:11Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > The proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked in a water tank is so clear that only a disinfo agent would say it was real. > [Opposingdigits | Discover the magic in everyday moments.](http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222) > > Let’s hear everybody’s view on the Chinese spacewalk? Do you say it was real, or faked? Nah. Let’s see if people prefer all your links, or my one link. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/157 "2013-03-26T19:38:22Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > One strategy they us is to have a crazy person defend a conspiracy theory which discredits the theory. Psssst. . . . ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/158 "2013-03-26T19:49:42Z")
> [@Cosmored](#): > > The proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked in a water tank is so clear that only a disinfo agent would say it was real. > [Opposingdigits | Discover the magic in everyday moments.](http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222) > > Let’s hear everybody’s view on the Chinese spacewalk? Do you say it was real, or faked? Real. And so were the Apollo missions, 9/11 and the Kennedy assassination. Did I miss anything? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/159 "2013-03-26T19:53:07Z")
> [@AtomicDog](#): > > Real. And so were the Apollo missions, 9/11 and the Kennedy assassination. > > Did I miss anything? Elvis is dead and Paul McCartney is alive. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949/160 "2013-03-26T19:58:45Z")
[QUOTE=Cosmored] {snip} One strategy they us is to have a crazy person defend a conspiracy theory which discredits the theory. {snip} [/QUOTE] Mr. Pot, allow me to introduce you to Ms. Kettle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-in-a-studio/653949.md?page=9)