# The Apprentice -- 05/05/05

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 5, 2005, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521 "2005-05-05T12:11:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521/41 "2005-05-06T14:53:24Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> I don’t understand how the show works – what the candidates do and where they go after they’re fired.
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> Are the candidates sequestered only until the filming is finished, except for the final live show?

Donald keeps them on his vast Trump Apprenti-farms in upstate New York where he can study their habits and use their genetic strengths to engineer a stronger breed of candidates for the next season. They are allowed to roam free in his vast fields during the day and then spend their evenings in mock meetings, confessionals, and tense situations designed to determine character flaws that need correcting so we can be assured that the best possible candidates are created for our enjoyment.

Unfortunately it appears that the wrong batch was sent out for Season 3. The show actually gave us the rejected prototypes, while the Apprenti-bots intended for our viewing pleasure were toiling in Trump’s underground gold mines.

Rest assured that once the finale is over, the rejected batch that we viewed during the season will be rounded up, shipped off, and summarily disabled to protect the unsuspecting populace from their corporate inabilities.

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**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521/42 "2005-05-06T15:55:38Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> Speaking of eyes, I really can’t take anyone seriously who wears glittery eyeliner to extremely important job interviews either.

I noticed that too but I thought she pulled it off. Standing next to Tana there’s a lot of leeway for more makeup than usual. You can really tell that Tana has access to large quantities of makeup at an employee discount.

When Tana and Carolyn were in the car I had a raging inner snob moment thinking about how Carolyn must feel being up close to Tana’s makeup.

Sometimes I feel like the sheer amount of makeup can give a woman authority. I don’t know how I could possibly stand up to someone with the balls to wear that much blush. You know women who wear that much makeup just don’t give a shit and there’s something about it that makes me feel like I’m not really dealing with someone who’s playing by the established rules of society. Because she obviously doesn’t worry what anyone thinks. Hmm… the rogue rouge principle! At any rate, Tana’s got it in spades. Her face is utterly outrageous and I don’t think I could stand up to it. There is no way Carolyn doesn’t feel it. Carolyn is from _our_ planet.

Oh that reminds me of my favorite moment in the show when Kristin gets in a fight with the guys about whether she looks good in a hat. Talk about balls. If someone tells you you look bad in a hat and your answer is “no I’ve seen photos of me in a hat and I look good in a hat so screw you!” That would be so admirable if she didn’t look so stupid in hats and weren’t such a pissy jerk.

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**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521/43 "2005-05-06T16:20:55Z")

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I changed my mind. My favorite moment wasn’t the Kristin hat thing, it was when Craig got fired and then they had a lingering shot of Carolyn looking like she was pondering the whole folly of human existence and her role in one man’s degredation and just reflecting about her life and how she came to this moment in time. It was very arty. To me the show is all about Carolyn’s stoic journey. I’m sure if I ever read any books she’d remind me of some classic literary figure.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521/44 "2005-05-06T20:05:41Z")

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> [@Mullinator](#):
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> senseless.  
> **Erin** - You’d drive me crazy.  
> **Chris** - I actually think you really suck, but may be the best of a bad lot. But, dang. About the only way they could find a less helpful group of 6 people would be to hold Apprentice recruiting drives at terrorist training schools.

Don’t be silly, terrorist training school students are fanatically dedicated to their employers. They take direction, don’t ask questions, and execute plans quickly and efficiently.

Kendra’s got Danny. Who sang. It was so painful last night hearing his “Ode to Best Buy.” I can not believe he run a company. And I’d forgotten how much I hated Erin until I saw her again. (Cut the bangs!)

And Tana - wow… maybe she can try to convince someone that Steel Cage Deathmatch is a new olympic event and put Chris, Brian, and Kristen in there in a fight to the death. It would play to her team members’ strengths. They could be useful.

I don’t blame her for asking to switch assistants…though I wonder who she planned to switch them with. People off the street? Robin (she’s there, in the lobby. She’s professional)? There’s no combination of those 6 which wouldn’t suck.

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**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521/45 "2005-05-06T20:13:52Z")

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> [@Mullinator](#):
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> …  
> The Rancic/Perdew corollary update. …

Your comments are great. Only question I have is … If the “Rancic/Perdew corollary” is a corollary, then of what theorem or proven proposition is it a corollary? What is that larger theorem, O Wise One?

Changing the subject … regarding the show’s format … So I understand that the contestants are sequestered during the shooting of all of their tasks. And, from I’ve read, all the filming was done about a year ago. Assuming that the last episode two weeks from now is live, are we to believe that since the filming of the final tasks have been completed that neither Tana or Kendra knows who won the apprentice job? That’s a long time to wait for a decision. Or do they know, but have been sworn to secrecy? Even if they don’t know, wouldn’t they have a pretty good notion based on how their final tasks ended up? IMO, the only thing that could’ve stopped a Kendra win would’ve been a complete meltdown on her final task.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521/46 "2005-05-06T22:37:54Z")

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Okay, maybe I’m extra-sensitive to this, cuz I’m from Iowa too – but after what the interviewers said about Tana, “mom from Iowa”, and not being accustomed to big city ways, I’m thinking that’s how Trump is going to see her.

Not quite “hick”, but put “mom” and “Iowa” together, and it’s a stretch to get to “dynamic” and “powerful”.

If Kendra and Tana come out close to even on the tasks, Kendra gets the job.

I know, my bias is showing, but at least two of the interviewers seemed to think that Tana’s background will be a minus for Trump.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521/47 "2005-05-06T22:48:15Z")

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As much as I love Tana, I think Trump will hire the malleable little chippy.

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-05-05-05/302521/48 "2005-05-07T04:42:11Z")

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> [@JXJohns](#):
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> She was telling the truth. Notice that she got no disapproving looks or comments from Carolyn either.

At the [Yahoo! Apprentice site](http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/03/index.html) there is an unaired video clip that shows Carolyn talking about Tana’s lack of faith in her team. She says she doesn’t buy it because Brian and Chris are self-made millionaires, so they can’t be complete idiots. As someone wrote before on this thread, Carolyn was just using her poker face when Tana complained; that doesn’t mean she agreed with her.

Mully, best… **Raj Ratings** …EVER! In fact, this has been the funniest **Apprentice** thread I can remember reading here from all three seasons!

I was certain Tana couldn’t win when I read Trump’s quote on all-nighters at the Yahoo! site after Tana and Craig went to sleep while Kendra stayed up all night working on the Pontiac brochure. From [http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/03/theshow/recap/episode12\_2.html](http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/03/theshow/recap/episode12_2.html)

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> Mr. Trump explained that the concept of working all night is a viable option. “I’ve seen people go 48 hours and even more, days and days without any sleep in order to get a deal done. Sometimes you have to do that,” he said. “And if you don’t have the physical or mental stamina to do it, guess what: you’d better be doing something else.”

Tana will be selling Mary Kay makeup again very soon.

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