# The Apprentice, 11/18 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 17, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245 "2004-11-17T13:10:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/21 "2004-11-19T02:11:15Z")
My man Kevin. (Need drooling smilie…) How funny was it to hear them say that they represent “normal looking” people, unlike models?! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/22 "2004-11-19T02:11:49Z")
Maria = beeyotch. I think Kevin and Andy are the only two left that I don’t hate. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/23 "2004-11-19T02:15:34Z")
> [@LilyoftheValley](#): > > My man Kevin. (Need drooling smilie…) > > How funny was it to hear them say that they represent “normal looking” people, unlike models?! It’s still a good idea in concept. I’ve always wondered why the clothing industry didn’t use more normal looking models. I don’t want o know how the jeans are going to look on some skinny, 20 year old model with washboard abs. I want to know how they’re going to look on me. I need that drooling smilie for Jen, btw. Holy smoke! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/24 "2004-11-19T02:17:52Z")
Kevin rocks, man. He knows how to deal with deadweight. That’s a good leadership skill. ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/25 "2004-11-19T02:27:36Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Give me bitchy or give me death? Poor Wes. Oh yeah, I blocked that one out as soon as I heard it. :eek: Listen to Andy when he says wear the fricking Levis. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/26 "2004-11-19T02:29:05Z")
Jen’s got chutzpah, doesn’t she? I hope Carolyn lets Trump know how much Jen really contributed. (Or was it Bill with their team?) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/27 "2004-11-19T02:29:38Z")
Man, how about the way Jenn just fucking _carjacked_ all of of Ivana’s thunder? That was Omarosa-like. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/28 "2004-11-19T02:31:52Z")
Was it just me, or was Billy Joel’s pitch realllllllly off? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/29 "2004-11-19T02:41:46Z")
Maria. Must. Die. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/30 "2004-11-19T02:42:53Z")
Double firing! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/31 "2004-11-19T02:43:30Z")
Whoa. Excellent. Wes can’t even breathe a sigh of relief before he’s gone too. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/32 "2004-11-19T02:43:30Z")
Well that was a bit of a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/33 "2004-11-19T02:43:37Z")
That’s going to be one uncomfortable cab ride. ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/34 "2004-11-19T02:46:26Z")
Ok, that was fun. Really, both of them had to go. ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/35 "2004-11-19T02:49:14Z")
They supposedly filmed everyone going out of the building and climbing into the cab ahead of time. This time around, they couldn’t have. Unless this was planned from the beginning. Could it have been? Naw, they couldn’t possibly be that devious. :rolleyes: Jen was outrageous. She truly was outrageous, and if they end up in the boardroom again, I want Ivana to walk up and down her spine in 5" spike heels. What a credit-stealing beyotch. Wes: “I would’ve liked my own cab.” Best closing line this season. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/36 "2004-11-19T02:49:22Z")
What circle of hell would that cab ride be? I wondered if Maria was going to be jabbing him with her stiletto heels the entire ride. She certainly looked like she wanted to murder him. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/37 "2004-11-19T02:51:34Z")
Wish we could have had an extended boardroom this week. Wes defended himself well, and he was right to let Maria do most of the design work. Too bad he didn’t do something about that finger in his face. Too bad he couldn’t have been as funny and relaxed in the boardroom as he was in the cab. Do you think they stopped for drinks, maybe? 😉 I don’t think I’ve ever seen a face get as tight as Maria’s in the cab. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/38 "2004-11-19T02:55:12Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever seen a face get as tight as Maria’s in the cab. 😛 “Tight” was exactly the same word I thought of. Wes looked like he would have rather ridden in the trunk than in the back with Maria. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/39 "2004-11-19T02:58:34Z")
Oh man I need a cigarette after that episode, and I don’t smoke. That was the best firing ever. I thought “Blinky” was going to light the conference table on fire with the sparks flying from her eyelids. And “I would have at least liked my own cab” was the best line ever. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245/40 "2004-11-19T03:35:01Z")
What I want to know is, why did Maria think she could use anorexic models in her fashion shoot and then be surprised that they didn’t fill out the butt of their jeans? Duh. It seemed like she was acting out some sort of adolescent, cliched fantasy of what it would be like to be the queen of a fashion shoot. No wonder it sucked. For once, I actually felt bad for Ivana. She got totally ripped off. Not to defend Jenn, but it was that Levi’s guy who gave her credit; she merely accepted it. Maybe she does have some fembot mesmeric ability. If tonight is any indication, I can see why, though. Whoo boy. Did anyone else notice that Kevin seemed to have a black eye at the photo shoot? Under the left eye. Also, his flop sweat during the presentation made Nixon look cool as a cucumber. The most hilarious part of the whole episode was definitely the cab ride. Maria looked as if she’d eaten a lemon, rind and all, still incapable of reflecting or taking responsibility. Loved Wes’ parting line. Great stuff. Anyone else shocked to see Ivana and Sandy in the Final 6, ahead of Bradford, Pamela, Wes, who all seemed much stronger? Weird. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-18/275245.md?page=3)