# The Apprentice, 11/25 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 24, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549 "2004-11-24T23:09:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/1 "2004-11-24T23:09:01Z")
Business apparantly never takes a holiday, and neither does _The Apprentice_. Even though tomorrow is Thanksgiving, The Don has a new episode coming out. This week’s task: To design a new soda bottle. I think Ivana and Andy both need a PM win to have a realistic shot at winning the job, and if they don’t step up to be PM, they’re on the firing line. ---
**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/2 "2004-11-25T02:47:37Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Business apparantly never takes a holiday, and neither does _The Apprentice_. Even though tomorrow is Thanksgiving, The Don has a new episode coming out. > > This week’s task: To design a new soda bottle. > > I think Ivana and Andy both need a PM win to have a realistic shot at winning the job, and if they don’t step up to be PM, they’re on the firing line. I’m thinking that Trump would like to hang onto Andy until the last three or four, ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/3 "2004-11-25T12:52:41Z")
Okay, we’ve got Ivana, Jenn, and Sandy; Kelly, Kevin, and Andy. I’m guessing Ivana and Sandy out, with the final four of Jenn, Kelly, Kevin (as predicted all along) and Andy (who’da thunk?) Luckily, I’m having a midday dinner with friends who live less than an hour away, so I’ll be able to watch tonight! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/4 "2004-11-26T01:52:31Z")
Okay – Trump, in his voiceover summary of last week, says “Jenn stole credit for Ivana’s idea…” (dang, sorry, I don’t recall the phrasing). Clearly he sides with those of us who think she presented herself as having done more than she did. ---
**Author:** ![DoperChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@DoperChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoperChic)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/5 "2004-11-26T02:14:14Z")
Shoot. Someone please tell me there will be a repeat later on this week. I’m stuck with the family with not an open tv in sight. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/6 "2004-11-26T02:18:44Z")
That globe bottle design is horrendous. I fear for Andy’s safety in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/7 "2004-11-26T02:25:12Z")
I think Andy’s toast. The pathetic bribery, the with-holding of pizza, the staff of life for creative types… not good… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/8 "2004-11-26T02:29:27Z")
They still seem to think they’re playing survivor? Can’t they see that the plotting and scheming means nothing? Trump makes the decisions, not them. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/9 "2004-11-26T02:43:57Z")
Whoa. Sandy way outtalked that poor schlub Andy. I never would have expected that. Way to stand up for yourself! ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/10 "2004-11-26T02:44:00Z")
Well, that was brutal. Nice, though, to see someone with the class to thank Trump and be gracious on the way out. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/11 "2004-11-26T02:44:37Z")
They should’ve fired all three of them. The girls aren’t tough, they’re loud, there’s a difference. What a ridiculous idea for a bottle, just dumb. What a bunch of wastes of space, the lot of 'em. Kevin’s okay I guess… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/12 "2004-11-26T02:47:26Z")
I think Andy got fired more because DT couldn’t stand to seem him sit there and get hammered the way he was without making any attempt to stand up for himself. I hate that Kelly keeps gliding by. What a smug prick that guy is. ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/13 "2004-11-26T02:47:41Z")
Man this episode had some laugh-out loud moments: “The Globe” barbell Pepsi bottle “I crashed the porsche my dad gave me when I was 16, 17,”-Ivana Next week’s scenes with Ivana taking off her skirt and showing her thong-thong-thong-thong Andy’s fake carride commercial with Raj ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/14 "2004-11-26T02:48:07Z")
So Sandy and Jenn will have to work together next week? That’s gonna be a success! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/15 "2004-11-26T02:49:01Z")
Crap, I missed the preview for next week. Could somebody recap? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/16 "2004-11-26T02:51:30Z")
Can the Apprentices have conjugal visits? Looks like Ivana needs one. And can someone tell Donald that “debating” is **not** talking over the other person. I was ready for him to tell Sandy and Jennifer to take it outside. He needs quiet, so he can figure out which company to give to Andy. But noooooooo. Trump lost out here, IMHO. Is Andy the first to say thanks? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/17 "2004-11-26T02:51:34Z")
I think Andy thought he’d look better–more professional–if he let Sandy and Jen argue in front of the big boss. It only made him look like a pushover, unfortunately. Jen is a snake for revealing the conversation she had with Andy. But just based on the presentation, I have to say that Jen was superior. Sandy’s stammering made me uncomfortable and embarrassed for her. ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/18 "2004-11-26T02:51:48Z")
Two-epi special Never before seen scenes on Wednesday, I think Regular epi on Thursday Apparently the task has to do with “who can sell more candy”-they’re hawking M&Ms In the boardroom there’s talk of “let’s see the act in question” with Trump looking like he’s revving up a tv screen This seems (I would assume) to Ivana taking her skirt off to hawk a candybar for twenty dollars. There’s a blur over her ass. Sandy and Jen are wearing sexy outfits to sell candy then the announcer said “Ivana outtrumps them all,” and then the lapdancey scene of Ivana being all “I’ll take it off for twenty dollars.” That’s it. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/19 "2004-11-26T02:53:14Z")
Next wekk, I believe they’re selling chocolate, and Ivana flips up her skirt and dances around in the street. See, I told you she’s awful. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549/20 "2004-11-26T03:01:51Z")
Andy giving cash to the design team was pretty stupid. The team would have been more energized for him if he’d let them eat the pizza before it got cold. Both bottles were too gimmicky, but the Best of Both Worlds concept was cool, and the travel contest was a good idea. Whose idea was the round bottle? Do these people have unlimited room in their fridges? Messing with the shape of the bottle was a bad, and probably expensive, idea. Wouldn’t you have to retool a factory to make it? I hate how the Final Four is shaping up. I was really rooting for Andy. Of the five left, I don’t even care who wins. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-11-25/276549.md?page=2)