# The Apprentice -- 12/1 and 12/2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 1, 2004, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495 "2004-12-01T15:04:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/41 "2004-12-03T02:28:46Z")

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Strippers with chocolate bars!

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**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/42 "2004-12-03T02:29:13Z")

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She dropped the fuckin’ skirt!

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**Author:** ![Phelan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Phelan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phelan)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/43 "2004-12-03T02:30:01Z")

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She really did…

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/44 "2004-12-03T02:31:19Z")

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West Coast – if you haven’t gathered – we’re well into spoilerville here!

I saw the preview and I still couldn’t believe when she did that.

Yikes.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/45 "2004-12-03T02:32:47Z")

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The choco-strippers won! Choco-flasher lost! Ivana inks Playboy pictorial deal!

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/46 "2004-12-03T02:33:51Z")

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They haven’t been doing a good job of not telegraphing the loser lately. Buh bye, Ivana. That was embarrassing.

And didn’t she call Sandy and Jenn “strippers?” Pot kettle black.

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**Author:** ![partlycloudy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/partlycloudy/32/3114_2.png) [@partlycloudy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/partlycloudy)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/47 "2004-12-03T02:35:18Z")

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Ooooh, I think Ivana’s done herself in this time!

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/48 "2004-12-03T02:36:14Z")

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Well, in her defense, at least she wasn’t wearing a thong?

Any guesses as to whether Trump will fire her immediately or let her dangle for a while?

And will we hear some kind of rationalization for this?

Nice cliche-flinging, btw, Billy-Boy.

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**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/49 "2004-12-03T02:40:25Z")

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> Well, in her defense, at least she wasn’t wearing a thong?

Well, even better, actually; flannel boy-shorts as far as I could see.

Not that this would pad her from being spied upon as she was, in the midst of this act.

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**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/50 "2004-12-03T02:42:32Z")

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Is Kevin going out? They’re really beating up on him. And Kelly got a little slap from George.

And nobody has touched Ivana.

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**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/51 "2004-12-03T02:44:00Z")

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Um, forget what I said about not beating on Ivana.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/52 "2004-12-03T02:44:02Z")

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“Let’s not blow this out of proportion.” !?!?!?!?!!?

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**Author:** ![Amazingrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Amazingrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazingrace)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/53 "2004-12-03T02:44:13Z")

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> [@Joe K](#):
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> Well, even better, actually; flannel boy-shorts as far as I could see…

LOOK! They were bikini bottoms.

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**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/54 "2004-12-03T02:45:42Z")

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If he doesn’t fire Ivana, I think he’ll have to fire Carolyn

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**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/55 "2004-12-03T02:45:55Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> “Let’s not blow this out of proportion.” !?!?!?!?!!?

Well, she could have dropped those “bikini bottoms” too.

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**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/56 "2004-12-03T02:46:58Z")

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> [@Amazingrace](#):
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> LOOK! They were bikini bottoms.

Don’t you undress her in those terms!

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/57 "2004-12-03T02:49:36Z")

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> [@Green Bean](#):
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> And that’s exactly why I said that I could see her working for a huge firm, and not for herself. I don’t see her as having what it takes to be a successful business person.

Large firms _are_ private practice, as opposed to working in-house at a company or in a government position. And if you think the managing partner’s the only one acting as a businessperson, you’re sadly mistaken. Where do you think clients come from? Magic client trees?

And to return on-topic: wow, Carolyn is so not amused right now.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/58 "2004-12-03T02:50:11Z")

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Carolyn was right, George was wrong.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/59 "2004-12-03T02:51:21Z")

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Glug glug glug – down she goes.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-12-1-and-12-2/277495/60 "2004-12-03T02:52:36Z")

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My god, this is the most pathetic board room defense I’ve ever seen- even more cringe-inducing than Omarosa. “Fire Jen.” WTF?

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