# The Apprentice -- 3/10/05 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 10, 2005, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817 "2005-03-10T12:15:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/81 "2005-03-11T15:43:21Z")
Does Tana remind anyone else of Jenna Elfman, from Dharma and Greg? Tall, perky, upbeat, big toothy smile? ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/82 "2005-03-11T17:35:59Z")
> [@Green Bean](#): > > (How many of us post over there, too? I think their MamaTiger is our MamaTiger, but I’m not sure. I read over there all the time, but don’t post much.) Near as I can tell, a _lot_ of us post over there. And yes, it’s the same MamaTiger. A lot of the others I don’t think have the same screen names. **Rysler** , it’s from every man’s favorite holiday, the upcoming Steak & Blowjob Day. It’s Monday, March 14, so be sure and mark your calender. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/83 "2005-03-11T17:41:29Z")
I used to post over there, but living on the west coast, by the time the show was over it would take an hour to read all the posts and then there was nothing else to say. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mlerose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@mlerose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlerose)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/84 "2005-03-11T17:55:44Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > **Rysler** , it’s from every man’s favorite holiday, the upcoming Steak & Blowjob Day. It’s Monday, March 14, so be sure and mark your calender. Great, my birthday is Steak and Blowjob Day. Too bad I don’t eat steak or have a penis! ---
**Author:** ![jebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@jebert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jebert)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/85 "2005-03-11T17:56:19Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Clips show – so new material, but no task and no firing. I guess they’re trying to pace it so that the finale comes during May sweeps. I think they’re taking the week off for NCAA basketball. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/86 "2005-03-11T17:59:16Z")
Way to go, John. From a mortal lock to a loser in one day. I maintained from the beginning of the season that you were the de facto winner. I chalked up last week to personality conflict and a necessary amputation. Then, in the first ten minutes of the show, I lose all respect for your abilities. Your disrespect and open contempt for other professionals and colleagues made you deserving of dismissal, even if your performance didn’t. What an ass. ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/87 "2005-03-11T18:06:12Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Rysler, it’s from every man’s favorite holiday, the upcoming Steak & Blowjob Day. It’s Monday, March 14, so be sure and mark your calender. :o ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/88 "2005-03-11T18:14:00Z")
> [@MrFantsyPants](#): > > Why wasn’t there more fallout when Chris said that he was by far, the best negotiator at the table? The idiot was sitting there with Trump, George and Carolyn. WTF was he thinking? I think there was a lot of fallout on Chris that was edited out. It looked liked Trump was getting ready to fire his ass. Until John opened his mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/89 "2005-03-11T18:52:13Z")
> [@av8rmike](#): > > Also, while we’re answering easy questions, can someone remind me what the “Rancic/Perdew Corollary” is? I know it has something to do with screen time of past winners, but I don’t remember the exact phrasing. It’s something I made up. It’s basically the idea that, while each and every person on this show will screw up or make a mistake and likely have it shown, for the ones that do well in the end those mistakes will be minimized. Sure Bill was shown as a little controlling. Kelly was shown as a bit take no prisoners. But, compare that with them showing Chris as a randomly yelling tobacco chewer. Or Shrimp Stacy from last season coming off as a non-stop talking know it all. Basically, if your editing ever really shows you as a buffoon, you have no chance. Goes double if you have some kind of honking horn music behind you. Trump won’t be picking someone that has served as comic relief or as an examply of continued idiocy. That’s why Chris has no chance and Stephanie is teetering. Too many bad moments. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/90 "2005-03-11T19:29:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Goes double if you have some kind of honking horn music behind you. I call this the Tubas of Humiliation. Don’t ask for whom the tuba honks, it honks for thee. I think Tana is doomed because of the Corollary, actually – too much mockery from Carolyn (i.e., any at all), a very awkward line about “Black and white” in an interview, and _extended_ silliness attempting to be “street.” I happen to love her and root for her, but I don’t think she has a hope after last night. Even Erin has serious Corollary issues with all the shots of her rubbery facial expressions. The editing always captures her mugging at key moments, and I think she has no chance to win because of this. Could be Final 2, though, and definitely in Final 4. Angie smokes, Bren thought up the cucumber commercial, and Alex is just meh, plus he is a white male. All my money is on Kendra to win this thing. ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/91 "2005-03-11T20:01:13Z")
> [@masonite](#): > > I call this the Tubas of Humiliation. Don’t ask for whom the tuba honks, it honks for thee. > > I think Tana is doomed because of the Corollary, actually – too much mockery from Carolyn (i.e., any at all), a very awkward line about “Black and white” in an interview, and _extended_ silliness attempting to be “street.” I happen to love her and root for her, but I don’t think she has a hope after last night. > > Even Erin has serious Corollary issues with all the shots of her rubbery facial expressions. The editing always captures her mugging at key moments, and I think she has no chance to win because of this. Could be Final 2, though, and definitely in Final 4. > > Angie smokes, Bren thought up the cucumber commercial, and Alex is just meh, plus he is a white male. All my money is on Kendra to win this thing. I’ll agree with that, except I think Erin still has a shot (as much as it pains me to say it). I fully expect a final 2 of Kendra and Erin. But Kendra looks the strongest. Of course, so did John about 3 weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/92 "2005-03-11T20:25:22Z")
Well, I think it is almost a slam-dunk that a woman will win it. ---
**Author:** ![\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/7cd45c/32.png) [@\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Deep_F_ied)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/93 "2005-03-11T20:44:54Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > **Rysler** , it’s from every man’s favorite holiday, the upcoming Steak & Blowjob Day. It’s Monday, March 14, so be sure and mark your calender. Can someone tell me where this comes from? I wish to celebrate and feel I will need proof of its signifigance to show my G/F. Thanks. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/94 "2005-03-11T20:47:48Z")
> [@Deep Fried](#): > > Can someone tell me where this comes from? [This site](http://www.steakandbjday.com/) was slightly enlightening. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/95 "2005-03-11T22:29:09Z")
Can someone tell me what the deal is with the whole you’re-shown-smoking-therefore-you’re-DOOMED thing? Is it somewhere in the rules that smokers can’t win? Is it an editing thing, akin to the tubas of humiliation? ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/96 "2005-03-11T22:48:53Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > I used to post over there, but living on the west coast, by the time the show was over it would take an hour to read all the posts and then there was nothing else to say. 🙂 Hell, I live on the **east** coast and usually can’t get there quickly enough to add anything of merit. That board moves _quickly._ [I am dgorman there and on TARflies, by the way). ---
**Author:** ![\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/7cd45c/32.png) [@\_Deep\_F\_ied](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Deep_F_ied)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/97 "2005-03-11T22:51:27Z")
Thanks **Rysler**. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/98 "2005-03-11T23:00:17Z")
> [@«Ðëëp¤F®ïêd»™](#): > > Can someone tell me where this comes from? I wish to celebrate and feel I will need proof of its signifigance to show my G/F. > > Thanks. 😉 Just be aware that Steak and Blowjob Day is often celebrated with enthusiasm directly proportional the enthusiasm you showed for Valentines Day. Lots of guys get a nice card and maybe a burger from McDonalds. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2005, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817/99 "2005-03-12T01:41:58Z")
> [@lezlers](#): > > Can someone tell me what the deal is with the whole you’re-shown-smoking-therefore-you’re-DOOMED thing? Is it somewhere in the rules that smokers can’t win? Is it an editing thing, akin to the tubas of humiliation? IIRC Trump has a Yoooooge problem with tobacco and alcohol. He’s on record saying he’d be extremely disappointed with his own children if they ever decided to even TRY alcohol; don’t know if tobacco would also apply but I can guess it would. I don’t think this means you can’t smoke if you’re going to work for Trump, exactly, but I do think it means if the editors have decided to show you with a lit cigarette in your hand, you are doomed. Speaking of chaw, if we were, does anyone else notice Chris’s facial twitchiness all the time? It’s practically at Maria levels. He constantly does this thing with his mouth and nose that reminds me of an anxious bunnyrabbit. Presumably it’s the lack of a soothing plug in his cheek. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-3-10-05/293817.md?page=4)