# The Apprentice -- 5/8/06 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988 "2006-05-09T00:37:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/1 "2006-05-09T00:37:20Z")
Tonight’s episode is brought to us by Outback Steakhouse. Oh my goodness – a food-marketing task? We’ve never seen one of those before! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/2 "2006-05-09T01:08:25Z")
Allie and Roxanne are starting to get insufferable about whatever imagined slight they want Sean to apologize for (he should apologize for playing the game?). I think Sean is kind of a wanker but Allie is really coming off like a self-absorbed tool. I hope she goes next. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/3 "2006-05-09T01:10:02Z")
Somehow I doubt that the Donald has ever been to an Outback Steakhouse in his life. Who is kidding? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/4 "2006-05-09T01:18:42Z")
Getting an exclusive on the cheerleaders – good idea. Checking out the food – also a good idea. And, whaddya mean, the Donald’s never been to Outback? Him and Melania often hit it on the nanny’s night off. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/5 "2006-05-09T01:31:54Z")
How is Michael still on this show? What a waste of space. I think Brent had more going on upstairs than this jackass. “Sign of good faith?” No, nerd, the point is to step on the neck of the competition and laugh as they take their final breath. Most schools have a dance/pom team that is larger and more of a buzz than cheerleaders. Also, what about the mascot? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/6 "2006-05-09T01:39:37Z")
That sucks. I wanted the guys to win. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/7 "2006-05-09T01:40:24Z")
I was all ready to write off Roxanne (especially with her bad behavior early in the show), but she turned it out! I loved this episode. Who knew my alma mater could be so exciting? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/8 "2006-05-09T01:40:51Z")
That wasn’t a loss, that was a humiliation. Who’s gonna go? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/9 "2006-05-09T01:42:12Z")
I think Michael will go. He did a shit job selling food. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/10 "2006-05-09T01:44:08Z")
They were all more focussed on hoopla than on selling food. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/11 "2006-05-09T01:47:37Z")
Michael did do a shitty job, but I’m wondering why Lee–who obviously noticed it–didn’t take over the mic. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/12 "2006-05-09T01:48:43Z")
Michael _should_ go but the viceroys have a hate-on for Lee, the “politican.” I don’t know if he’ll make it out, though I can’t believe the Trumpites would rather have Michael and gross-British-guy-with-the-funky-lips advance over Lee, who’s a NYC boy with an instinct to sell… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/13 "2006-05-09T01:59:44Z")
I knew that Trump would zoom in like a laser on that “share the cheerleaders” thing. Giving up an advantage for no reason is almost as suicidal as interrupting when he’s chewing out somebody else. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/14 "2006-05-09T01:59:59Z")
Well, that was another elimination of a person who deserved to go, but for the wrong reason. They lost because they were playing games instead of selling food. Giving the girls a couple of cheerleaders could have HURT their sales, they would have sat back and watched a show instead of hustling their butts off to sell the food. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/15 "2006-05-09T02:06:18Z")
I’m actually not too surprised that the women won this one. Challenges that might on the surface favor guys are generally won by the women. It’s that whole over-confidence thing that gets them every time. (I’m sure the same can be said for guys and “girly” challenges, but I can’t think of any examples off the top of my head.) ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/16 "2006-05-09T02:11:15Z")
yeah. As dumb as Michael is/was, ultimately they did not give up the cheerleaders, and they lost because they didn’t sell food. The ladies get props for figuring out how they could exploit the shortcomings of the mens’ plan. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/17 "2006-05-09T02:11:21Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Well, that was another elimination of a person who deserved to go, but for the wrong reason. I absolutely agree with this. Michael also should have articulated more in the boardroom his line of thinking. If he had just made the decision without consulting the PM and it was the wrong decision, he would have gotten hung out to dry for not running it by Lee. Also, the cheerleaders certainly didn’t help them much in the end anyhow. I really, really wanted the guys to win, even though I can’t see any of them actually making it to be the Apprentice. I just couldn’t stand how sheill the girls were in the beginning. Actually, now that I’m thinking of it, I kind of hate everyone who is left. Tammy is the least objectionable to me, but she doesn’t seem to be Appentice material herself. Does anyone have any idea what the huge, green, thick, leafy thing was that Roxanne was cooking at the beginning? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/18 "2006-05-09T02:16:00Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Does anyone have any idea what the huge, green, thick, leafy thing was that Roxanne was cooking at the beginning? It was some kind of cactus. I’ve forgotten the name. Yucca? A friend where I used to work would bring it for lunch and share it. It’s pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/19 "2006-05-09T02:24:23Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Does anyone have any idea what the huge, green, thick, leafy thing was that Roxanne was cooking at the beginning? Cactus leaf? Who’s Tammy, again? Can we slap Sean for his stupid wobbly antics every time he critiques another Apprentice? As well as belting Trumpy for his dumbassed sexist commentary? Grunt, grunt. Cheerleaders pretty. Sex good. I like boobies! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988/20 "2006-05-09T02:40:39Z")
> [@Hippy Hollow](#): > > yeah. As dumb as Michael is/was, ultimately they did not give up the cheerleaders, and they lost because they didn’t sell food. The ladies get props for figuring out how they could exploit the shortcomings of the mens’ plan. Michael wasn’t fired for losing the task (Trump admitted that the cheerleader thing wasn’y why they lost), he was fired for basically disqualifying himself as a valid contender by showing that he lacked a killer instinct or (as Carolyn called it) a “competitive edge.” It went beyond just this week’s task at that point. There’s no way Trump is going hire someone to make executive decisions if he can’t trust him not to hand over advantages to competitors just “to be fair” or to “show good faith.” Michael is probably the kind of guy who doesn’t think you should keep score in tee-ball. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-apprentice-5-8-06/355988.md?page=2)