# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/221 "2025-01-28T00:47:23Z")
Just like magic! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/222 "2025-01-28T01:05:26Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Keep moving those goalposts The goalpost, per the thread title, is “Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him”. It is clear that this is not the case. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/223 "2025-01-28T01:26:47Z")
For being in office for a week it is clear to rational people that he has actually accomplished a good amount of horrible things and is continuing with the support of the GOP. You, not being rational on this topic, disagree. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/224 "2025-01-28T01:26:56Z")
No, the “goalpost” says that such a thing as stipulated _cannot_ be done, and as long as there is anything at all that Trump cannot do you and the OP get to be the “winner”. Congratulations. You both win the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/225 "2025-01-28T01:41:26Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Don’t worry, I have it on good authority that [everything is going to be just as it was in 2017](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-america/1009759/207), I’m sure you’re being sarcastic, but yeah, it pretty much is. Trump blusters while doing the same shit as before, just slightly worse. > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > But now ICE is [detaining American citizens for being brown.](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-rail-against-egregious-ice-raid-after-military-veteran-questioned) These actions are being done without warrants of any type. Wow! That’s [never happened before!](https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/07/30/ice-deport-us-citizens/) Obviously a lot of the shit Trump is doing right now is idiotic and disastrous diplomatically. But if you believe that he is on his way to deliver on his promise to deport unprecedented numbers of people, you’re swallowing the same horseshit that his followers are. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/226 "2025-01-28T01:47:13Z")
I’ve never suggested DJT will get anywhere near his goal of millions being deported. But it is clear the goal is to fuck things up for any brown person they run into. Plus he just yesterday implemented quotas for each ICE office. The expectation is for them to hit 1200-1500 detentions daily nationwide. In 2024 the average daily rate was 350. If they don’t hit the quota the official in charge will be held accountable. [Here’s your cite.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/01/27/trump-team-focuses-deportations-on-immigration-numbers-not-criminals/) Abuses will increase wildly and there will be very little effort made to respect the rights of any citizen with a brown complexion. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/227 "2025-01-28T01:47:50Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > [Put a bullet in the heads of the people being “deported” and dump the body into the ocean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_flights). Once Trump gets to the point of ordering that. You know, if I legitimately believed that the US was about to start mass murdering dissidents aaaaany day now, I wouldn’t be blabbering about it on a public message board. You’d make a _terrible_ revolutionary. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/228 "2025-01-28T01:52:49Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > You know, if I legitimately believed that the US was about to start mass murdering dissidents aaaaany day now, I wouldn’t be blabbering about it on a public message board. You’d make a _terrible_ revolutionary. I’m a white male so I’m low on the list. And at my age there’s a good chance I’ll be dead before they get around to me, I should have enough warning to be able to kill myself first at least. And I’m not a revolutionary, I’m a doomsayer. There will be no revolution, no better future; just a steady worsening of the US and the world until the permanent collapse of industrial civilization. And multiple genocides and nuclear war before the final collapse. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/229 "2025-01-28T02:03:48Z")
Alrighty, Then! Who would like a nice cup of Tea? ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/230 "2025-01-28T02:05:34Z")
Don’t make me laugh, **Gato**! 😥 ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/231 "2025-01-28T02:08:49Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > Certainly true. But I bet even _he_ isn’t trying to sell the ‘Trump can’t really do anything bad, he’s constrained by \_\_\_\_\_\_’ idea, these days. > > Thank the gods we, at least, still have Smapti! I see you’re continuing your usual schtick of being a lying smarmy fuck, in single line chunks that would fit in a tweet. Smapti never said that Trump can’t do anything bad because he is constrained. Any reasonable person can see that Trump _has already_ done extreme and irrevocable damage to our nation. He has been elected president after leading a coup at the capitol. The harm to the norms and institutions of this country may _never_ be repaired. It is _unfathomably bad_ that he got elected. And as noted here: > [@velomont](#): > > And don’t forget about starting to throw the post-WW II into chaos. Fortunately the constitution will protect everyone. /s The harm to our diplomatic place in the world is, again, _irreparable_. Trump is single handedly tanking America down from it’s place atop a unipolar world, throwing the gauntlet to Russia and China to take their place on top while cutting Europe loose and telling them to give it their best shot, too. But none of _that_ is what you chucklefucks are worried about. Instead of being concerned about the very real issues we are facing, you worry that Trump is going to put immigrants and gay people in death camps. Holy fucking shit, grow the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/232 "2025-01-28T02:11:18Z")
My grandfather came to the USA from Belgium. I volunteer to be deported back to Namur. Tout de suite. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/233 "2025-01-28T03:57:12Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > …you worry that Trump is going to put immigrants and gay people in death camps. Which would be a bad thing, right? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/234 "2025-01-28T04:46:37Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > > [@Babale](#): > > > > …you worry that Trump is going to put immigrants and gay people in death camps. > > Which would be a bad thing, right Wow, how many times did _you_ get dropped on your head as a baby? If you had to ask _that_ question, it must be a big number. I’ll use really small words even you should understand. If Trump put immigrants or gay people in death camps, it would be much, much worse than “a bad thing”. But if you don’t mind, there’s plenty of bad stuff Trump is doing _in real life_, without delving into Der Trihs’ fantasies. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/235 "2025-01-28T05:14:04Z")
You clearly got dropped on your head many more times you fucking useless dick. Your simple minded post suggests that the only things that matter are the ways DJT is damaging the standing of the US on the world stage and suggesting the only harm that matters is to our diplomatic standing. I agree those are severe problems but you end you post with the suggestion that other concerns aren’t “real”. > [@Babale](#): > > Instead of being concerned about the very real issues we are facing, you worry that Trump is going to put immigrants and gay people in death camps. So for trash like you the concerns about immigrant and gay rights are easily dismissed. The things DJT is likely to do to immigrants are horrific. Forced conversion therapy for gay and trans people is a possibility. Speaker Johnson as well as other GOP leaders are well on board. Declaring gay marriage to be incompatible with Federal law is likely and SCOTUS seems poised to support something like it. Your ignorant ass is the one that needs to grow the fuck up and realize the threat posed by this administration is very, very far reaching internationally and domestically. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/236 "2025-01-28T05:17:29Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > So for trash like you the concerns about immigrant and gay rights are easily dismissed. No, you dumb motherfucker. There are very real concerns about the rights and treatment of migrants and gay people. _Those concerns do not rise to the level of fearing that they’re going to be rounded up and killed_. Not in the minds of people who aren’t _severely_ delusional. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/237 "2025-01-28T05:21:07Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Declaring gay marriage to be incompatible with Federal law is likely and SCOTUS seems poised to support something like it. Yeah, that’s a serious concern. Why not talk about that instead of delusional nonsense like: > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > [Put a bullet in the heads of the people being “deported” and dump the body into the ocean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_flights). Once Trump gets to the point of ordering that > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Or worse yet, co-opt them into a quasi-governmental militia, either though a compliant state like Texas from which it can be federalized, or just make it an adjunct to the District of Columbia National Guard. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/238 "2025-01-28T05:22:17Z")
Keep telling yourself that. You have more trust in Homan, Miller, Johnson, Alito and the other truly evil members of the GOP than I ever will. If that makes me delusional, so be it. You on the other hand are in severe denial if you don’t understand how far the Christian Dominionists like Johnson and Hegseth want to take things regarding trans and gay people. Ignoring these people and what they want makes it clear who is the delusional one here. ETA: The Der\_Trihs quote you offer is extreme but not outrageous given the degree of hate people in the DJT admin like Miller and Homan have for brown folks. I don’t know that I understand what Stranger is actually talking about. So again, FUCK OFF. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/239 "2025-01-28T05:27:58Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I don’t know that I understand That much is obvious ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/240 "2025-01-28T05:29:07Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > You on the other hand are in severe denial if you don’t understand how far the Christian Dominionists like Johnson and Hegseth want to take things regarding trans and gay people. Wait till he finds out their plans are for the Jews! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=13)