# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/241 "2025-01-28T05:29:46Z")
Hurr hurr hurr. Mouthbreather. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/242 "2025-01-28T06:43:38Z")
There is a mad clown with a machine gun out there, and as much as it would be easy for those on the right to have us dismiss the face paint and the floppy shoes, _I find it fucking hard to ignore that machine gun pointing at friends, family and others._ ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/243 "2025-01-28T08:07:24Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > There are very real concerns about the rights and treatment of migrants and gay people. _Those concerns do not rise to the level of fearing that they’re going to be rounded up and killed_. Not in the minds of people who aren’t _severely_ delusional. We’ve put white nationalists into power, people who _do_ in fact want to round up and kill millions of other people. It’s only “severely delusional” to people who think America is _special_ and It Can’t Happen Here. You’re talking as it rounding up huge numbers of people and killing them is something that’s never _actually happened._ Are we engaging in Holocaust denialism next? We’ve handed Nazis power, what do you expect them to do? Knit? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/244 "2025-01-28T13:26:00Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > There is a mad clown with a machine gun out there, and as much as it would be easy for those on the right I don’t know if you’re genuinely this stupid or just intellectually dishonest; or perhaps both… Just because I don’t share your delusion that Trump is literally Hitler doesn’t mean I am “oN tHe RiGhT”. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > We’ve put white nationalists into power, people who _do_ in fact want to round up and kill millions of other people. (Citation needed) > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Are we engaging in Holocaust denialism next? Comparing Trump and MAGA to Hitler and the Nazis _is_ basically Holocaust denialism. What the fuck is wrong with you? Things can be bad without being “literally Hitler”. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/245 "2025-01-28T13:43:30Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Just because I don’t share your delusion that Trump is literally Hitler doesn’t mean I am “oN tHe RiGhT”. Let me check: Not your thread. You weren’t quoted. You weren’t even referred to. Soooo…who the fuck are _you?_ ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/246 "2025-01-28T13:44:37Z")
Oh, I mistook your “old man yelling at clouds” routine for being part of the conversation. My bad, sorry! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/247 "2025-01-28T13:46:45Z")
if you aren’t involved, there is no conversation? Is there enough room in this thread for you _and_ your ego? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/248 "2025-01-28T13:50:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > if you aren’t involved, there is no conversation? Well, there was a bit of a back and forth betweene and a couple of other posters, and then you came in and dropped your own warm brown nugget on the floor; generally when one person makes a post following someone else’s post on the same topic, they are talking to each other, but I understand your decrepit mind is apparently not capable of that, and I apologize for making that presumption. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/249 "2025-01-28T13:51:40Z")
Out of curiousity, which right wingers in this thread _were_ you referring to? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/250 "2025-01-28T13:52:26Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Obviously a lot of the shit Trump is doing right now is idiotic and disastrous diplomatically. But if you believe that he is on his way to deliver on his promise to deport unprecedented numbers of people Whether he will deport as many as he has promised is a dubious proposition indeed. Whether he will deport unprecedented numbers, in the literal sense of being a new record by a substantial margin, is, it seems to me, very probable. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/251 "2025-01-28T13:52:28Z")
So, you think that if you post, following posts _must_ be responding to you. Very interesting. Please continue. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/252 "2025-01-28T13:56:29Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Whether he will deport unprecedented numbers, in the literal sense of being a new record by a substantial margin, is, it seems to me, very probable. Maybe. So far, he isn’t showing any signs of deporting “unprecedented” numbers of people; he’s deporting people at the same rate the Obama admin did. Will they pick up the pace? Maybe. Or maybe the ADHD child in charge of our government will get bored and go play with a different part of the government long before then. You know, like every promise he made the first time around. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/253 "2025-01-28T13:56:35Z")
It seems interesting that no comparisons to Hitler can be made unless a ridiculous number of events line up with what happened in Germany _in the latter days of World War 2_, while ignoring the build-up that lead to the disaster. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/254 "2025-01-28T13:57:10Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Maybe. So far, he isn’t showing any signs of deporting “unprecedented” numbers of people; he’s deporting people at the same rate the Obama admin did. We are a week in, man. They haven’t even had to time to change anything logistically or reassign people. They’ll get there. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/255 "2025-01-28T13:57:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So, you think that if you post, following posts _must_ be responding to you. Please quote where I said that rather than making shit up, idiot. Do you know what the word “generally” means? Because it doesn’t mean “must”, dumb ass. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/256 "2025-01-28T14:00:51Z")
But I guess we are not to draw any comparisons at all, according to some…until maybe it is too late to draw _any_ comparisons at all. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/257 "2025-01-28T14:07:01Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > But I guess we are not to draw any comparisons at all, You’re such a whiny, braindead, smarmy fuck. So if you’re criticized for drawing _the single worst comparison possible_, you’re not allowed to draw “any comparison at all”? Do you _only_ speak in the greatest extremes possible? Trump is a saint, or he is Hitler? You either get full throated agreement when you screech that Trump is literally Hitler, or you’re not allowed to draw _any comparisons at all_? Aren’t you 80 or some shit? When are you going to grow up and realize that there’s _some_ level of _nuance_ in this world? Your analysis reads like an edgy 14 year old’s. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/258 "2025-01-28T14:12:21Z")
Do the rest of us need to be here, or should we just leave Czarcasm and Babale to it? > [@Babale](#): > > Comparing Trump and MAGA to Hitler and the Nazis _is_ basically Holocaust denialism. A large number of historians including Holocaust scholars disagree with you. > **[Hundreds of Jewish scholars of holocaust history call on Americans to...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jewish-scholars-holocaust-history-antisemitic-hate-crimes-discrimination-a7423361.html)** > > 'Our reading of the past impels us to resist any attempts to place a vulnerable group in the crosshairs of nativist racism' [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/07/16/its-not-wrong-to-compare-trumps-america-to-the-holocaust-heres-why/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/07/16/its-not-wrong-to-compare-trumps-america-to-the-holocaust-heres-why/) > **[Trump’s admiration for Hitler is a problem we can’t ignore](https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/government/2024/11/04/trumps-admiration-for-hitler-is-a-problem-we-cant-ignore/)** > > Sarah Jewett suggests lessons from history show us that rhetorical alarm bells should be taken seriously. The saying goes “those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it” but what of those … [https://www.durham.ac.uk/research/current/thought-leadership/2024/10/is-trump-a-fascist/](https://www.durham.ac.uk/research/current/thought-leadership/2024/10/is-trump-a-fascist/) > **[Nazi analogies and today's U.S. political landscape](https://www.bleedingheartland.com/2024/10/30/nazi-analogies-and-todays-u-s-political-landscape/)** > > Henry Jay Karp considers whether Nazi analogies are warranted when discussing Donald Trump's presidential campaign rhetoric. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/259 "2025-01-28T14:32:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Do the rest of us need to be here, or should we just leave Czarcasm and Babale to it? I apologize for responding to what is basically performance art, and I’ll try not to let it happen again. Thank you for the solid links, btw. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/260 "2025-01-28T14:45:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I apologize for responding to what is basically performance art, Sure bud, anyone who disagrees with you is trolling 🙄 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=14)