# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/421 "2025-03-06T01:50:20Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Having only 85% of one’s current level of pessimism and fatalism about this administration (vs. 100%) doesn’t magically give rise to hundreds of practical, workable, and effective avenues to fight this situation. There’s no need for magic. My entire point is that Trump can and is being resisted by the same means that have been available to Americans for centuries - organized protest, boycotts, and court challenges. Naysaying that by declaring that he’ll do whatever he wants and ignore the courts is morally equivalent to telling people not to bother speaking out against him. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/422 "2025-03-06T01:51:00Z")
I’d like to offer this again: > **[Fascism Anyone? | Free Inquiry](https://secularhumanism.org/2003/03/fascism-anyone/)** > > Free Inquiry readers may pause to read the “Affirmations of Humanism: A Statement of Principles” on the inside cover of the magazine. To a secular humanist, ... Give each one consideration and hold it against the cold light of recent events. How many of Britt’s 14 points would have to be happening – _even a little bit_ – before reasonable people of good conscience, sound mind, and with some informed sense of history … worry. Remember: [**Boiling Frog**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog) and [**Neville Chamberlain**](https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/appeasement-and-peace-our-time) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/423 "2025-03-06T01:52:10Z")
You seem to be arguing with someone who isn’t here, because I certainly didn’t say not to worry about Trump or that he isn’t a problem. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/424 "2025-03-06T01:56:55Z")
It might be helpful, then, if you could be as precise as possible about: - just how much worry about Trump is appropriate, and - just how much of a problem he (and his administration) is Because – for the life of me – I can’t figure out what your position actually _is,_ other than chastising or deriding people whose level of concern is even marginally different from your own. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/425 "2025-03-06T02:01:34Z")
Donald Trump is the single greatest existential threat this country has ever faced and every good American should be very concerned about it and willing to resist him to the best of their ability. Which means NOT telling people that he’s unstoppable and that nothing we can do will accomplish anything. You can’t hope to win a war against an enemy you’ve already decided is invincible - which today’s court ruling among other things clearly demonstrates he is not. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/426 "2025-03-06T02:08:17Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > There’s no need for magic. My entire point is that Trump can and is being resisted by the same means that have been available to Americans for centuries - organized protest, boycotts, and court challenges. OK, but like… none of those methods have a great track record in situations this extreme. We’re past the point where the normal means are going to be effective. Buckle up. It’s just a matter of “when”, not if. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/427 "2025-03-06T02:14:17Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > OK, but like… none of those methods have a great track record in situations this extreme. Not with that attitude they won’t. Statements like this are what help Trump accomplish his goals. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/428 "2025-03-06T02:15:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Not with that attitude they won’t. Statements like this are what help Trump accomplish his goals. Right. Because they stop each and every one of us from … doing … what, again? ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/429 "2025-03-06T02:15:36Z")
@Smapti aren’t you the dude who praised gunning down people in the streets because law had broken down? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/430 "2025-03-06T02:18:00Z")
True. It’s not as if a tidal wave destroys absolutely _everything_ in its path, and I’ve seen massive forest fires leave a few trees standing. You all have absolutely nothing to worry your pretty little heads over. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/431 "2025-03-06T02:20:24Z")
Thoughts and prayers. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/432 "2025-03-06T02:22:26Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Because they stop each and every one of us from … doing … what, again? You cannot win a fight that you believe you’re going to lose. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > It’s not as if a tidal wave destroys absolutely _everything_ in its path, and I’ve seen massive forest fires leave a few trees standing. They coulda used your like on D-Day. “Gentlemen, almost all of you are certainly going to die, and it’s not going to do a damn thing to stop the Nazis. Now get out there and show 'em what you got! Which is nothing, by the way.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/433 "2025-03-06T02:23:25Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Not with that attitude they won’t. Statements like this are what help Trump accomplish his goals. What helps Trump accomplish his goals are people standing aside because they have been brought to believe that it just isn’t bad enough yet to really worry about, let alone do something about it. Much like some of my relatives that were told that things have a way of working out legally if you just get out of the way. Back in the 1930’s. In Germany and a couple of other countries nearby. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/434 "2025-03-06T02:24:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What helps Trump accomplish his goals are people standing aside because they have been brought to believe that it just isn’t bad enough yet to really worry about, let alone do something about it. Good thing I’m doing the exact opposite of that, then. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/435 "2025-03-06T02:24:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > > > Because they stop each and every one of us from … doing … what, again? > > You cannot win a fight that you believe you’re going to lose. So … they stop each and every one of us from … doing … what, again?? You seem to have avoided responding to that – fair question, too. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/436 "2025-03-06T02:25:17Z")
And what exactly are you doing? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/437 "2025-03-06T02:26:42Z")
Equating people who are more concerned than he is … with the MAGA movement. Which is a pretty shitty thing to call most of the people on this message board. I believe that’s straight out of Dale Carnegie. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/438 "2025-03-06T02:28:28Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > So … they stop each and every one of us from … doing … what, again?? From fighting. As I’ve said multiple times. > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Equating people who are more concerned than he is … with the MAGA movement. Blind panic and defeatism is not “being more concerned”. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/439 "2025-03-06T02:28:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > They coulda used your like on D-Day. “Gentlemen, almost all of you are certainly going to die, and it’s not going to do a damn thing to stop the Nazis. Now get out there and show 'em what you got! Which is nothing, by the way.” What a load of absolute crap. The soldiers at D-Day weren’t the ones that were told there wasn’t anything real to panic about. The soldiers at D-Day were the result of others buying that crap until it was too late. If you _actually_ think that we should be brave, stand our ground and fight back because letting the law handle it for us on its own just isn’t enough, fucking say so. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/440 "2025-03-06T02:30:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The soldiers at D-Day weren’t the ones that were told there wasn’t anything real to panic about. Why, it’s almost as if that was exactly the point I was making! Congratulations on passing Reading For Comprehension 101. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > If you _actually_ think that we should be brave, stand our ground and fight back because letting the law handle it for us on its own just isn’t enough, fucking say so. The law is one of the tools at our disposal. And as shown today, it works. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=23)