# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/481 "2025-03-06T05:50:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Have you considered calling them “possible temporary setbacks”, instead of “victories” I could do that, if I wanted to shit on the people taking Trump to court and winning. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/482 "2025-03-06T05:53:07Z")
A little honesty about what is actually happening is the same as shitting on people to you. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/483 "2025-03-06T06:04:40Z")
Did I miss it or did Smapti actually address the fucking new fact that four SCotUS justices effectively said that they would have ignored one of the enumerated powers in the CotUS, that belongs solely to the Congress, and give that power to the executive? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/484 "2025-03-06T06:05:52Z")
It doesn’t matter if four Supreme Court justices said that Trump is YHVH himself made flesh. Five is a bigger number than four. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/485 "2025-03-06T06:14:16Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > A little honesty about what is actually happening “A little honesty” would be acknowledging the manifest proof that the Supreme Court is NOT a rubber stamp for Trump, the justices he appointed WON’T side with him in lockstep no matter what, and that his admin HAS and WILL CONTINUE TO comply with its orders. You’re so focused on the perfect being the enemy of the good that they could order Trump tarred and feathered by a 9-0 decision and you’d bitch that they didn’t also horsewhip him. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/486 "2025-03-06T06:22:37Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You’re so focused on the perfect being the enemy of the good that they could order Trump tarred and feathered by a 9-0 decision and you’d bitch that they didn’t also horsewhip him. If anything so unlikely (and silly) ever happens I will give my own response…your freaky imagination notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/487 "2025-03-06T06:25:51Z")
And you would have no problem with four Justices of the Supreme Court doing so, as long as, this time, they were outvoted? The court would be one vote away from giving Trump all he wanted, and you just can’t see the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/488 "2025-03-06T06:28:18Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And you would have no problem with four Justices of the Supreme Court doing so, as long as, this time, they were outvoted? We can’t change who’s on the Supreme Court. We can bring cases to them and hopefully persuade enough of them to do the right thing. Which today we did. And still you whine. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/489 "2025-03-06T07:34:19Z")
Something about _we have to win them all; the America-hating fuckstick only has to win **some**._ ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/490 "2025-03-06T09:48:20Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Almost nobody: Well, if you _pretend_ those are the same thing as what you claimed, sure. > [@Smapti](#): > > “Sure, we won, but we didn’t win by enough points, so it’s kinda like we lost anyway!” As opposed to your “Sure, we lost, but we managed to sack the QB a couple of times” approach? > [@Smapti](#): > > Sorry, the goalpost belongs over there, not where you’re trying to move it to. Just trying to drag it back from where you keep taking it. Which is here: > [@Smapti](#): > > And they’re being done by people who believe they can make a difference, not by people who’ve already given up and decided that nothing anyone can do can possibly help and that even thinking it’s possible to do something is foolish. > [@Smapti](#): > > You seem to be harboring a delusion that pants-shitting terror and impotent wailing is the only appropriate way of expressing displeasure with the administration and that actually trying to be, you know, productive with your anger is somehow minimizing the problem. > [@Smapti](#): > > I could do that, if I wanted to shit on the people taking Trump to court and winning. The country still takes damage with each of these victories, and you want us to ignore that so that…you can feel smug? We can do stuff. We can fight back in various ways. But this “We won a battle therefore we’ll win the war” attitude of yours is delusional. Case in point: > [@Smapti](#): > > It doesn’t matter if four Supreme Court justices said that Trump is YHVH himself made flesh. Five is a bigger number than four. “It doesn’t matter that 4/9 of the Supreme Court openly indicated that they no longer care about the explicit text of the US Constitution” is a helluva thing to say. If you refuse to acknowledge the import of this just because _this time_ they didn’t get a fifth member on their side, you are pretty much proving everything everyone has said about you in this thread correct. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/491 "2025-03-06T17:23:36Z")
Ok, I hope this isn’t too off topic, but what really infuriates me is people that say we should look at the good things Trump has done. uhhhh. Name one. It’s like forgiving someone that went on a rape, pillage and destroy rampage because “Hey, they did, at least, mow their yard”. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/492 "2025-03-06T17:33:05Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Ok, I hope this isn’t too off topic, but what really infuriates me is people that say we should look at the good things Trump has done. uhhhh. Name one. A relative of mine similarly said " every new president brings bad and good things. Some things you’re going to like, some not". Riiiiiight. Which ones am I supposed to like? What actual fecking good is this monster going to bring? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/493 "2025-03-06T19:03:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > That’s exactly why we need to celebrate every victory. [Kareem Abdul-Jabbar](https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/what-kareem-abdul-jabbar-told-magic-johnson-after-first-win-with-lakers) hit a skyhook to win the Lakers’ first game of the 1979-80 season, when Magic Johnson had just joined the team. Magic had a good game, 26 points, 4 assists and 8 rebounds. He was justly happy, but got a little carried away in his celebration. Kareem said > _“Magic was so fired up, and I was like, Jesus, we can’t be at this emotional pitch for the whole season, or we won’t make it to Thanksgiving,”_ KAJ [said](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjZnhecZ8Fk). Magic recalled later: > “I’m hugging, grabbing his neck, and choking it,” he said. “I’m going crazy, and he gets me in the locker room and says, ‘You know what, Earvin? Don’t ever do that again. We got 81 more games.’” I trust that the analogy is obvious. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/494 "2025-03-06T19:06:22Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > I trust that the analogy is obvious. As they’ve said in the US military, BOHICA. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/495 "2025-03-06T19:37:18Z")
It’s so much worse than that though. Trump and musk have already done so many things that were called scaremongering previously. Project 2025 was supposedly just trump derangement syndrome, now we’re living it. What’s happening in Ukraine and Gaza is pretty much the worst case scenario…there are no adults in the room, or no adults with backbones. And pretty much all of Musk’s job is extra-legal. _Anything he gets done at all_ is an example of the system failing. So high fiving over one minor victory while the rest of the team has facial burns from having the basketball dunked in their face so many times is beyond ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/496 "2025-03-06T20:59:01Z")
I don’t care if four Justices agreed with Trump, just so long as only four Justices are ever going to agree with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/497 "2025-03-06T23:32:22Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > l don’t care if four Justices agreed with Trump, just so long as only four Justices are ever going to agree with Trump. I’m worried that even if that does come to pass, he’ll do what FDR did and try to expand SCOTUS so he can pack it. And with _this_ Congress I wouldn’t count on the same result that FDR got. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/498 "2025-03-07T11:52:12Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Ok, I hope this isn’t too off topic, but what really infuriates me is people that say we should look at the good things Trump has done. uhhhh. Name one. > > It’s like forgiving someone that went on a rape, pillage and destroy rampage because “Hey, they did, at least, mow their yard”. This infuriates me, too…but I have to admit, I heard a credible report on an NPR investigative program that the threat of tariffs really did help induce some Mexican officials to crack down (via police raids) on some fentanyl labs there. Of course, this will be hard to sustain – and, as long as American consumers crave the drug, the producers will find a way – but I had to be frank with myself and say “yes, Trump and his cronies have done 999 awful, idiotic, deeply harmful things…but facts are facts, and this may be a tiny positive outcome – assuming, of course, he never actually implements tariffs.” The reporters were actually on the scene in Culiacan, Mexico, watching the raid commence (and the fentanyl maker panicking) – the same lab where they had interviewed the same folks, calmly making their product, some weeks before. So, pretty legit. To be sure, fentanyl smuggling had already declined by fall 2024. And, the new Mexican President, Scheinbaum, was already planning to get tougher with drug makers, so we’ll never know how much the tariff threat was a factor. But sober, knowledgeable people in the NPR piece opined that it was. I can’t believe I’m posting this…anyone here knows from my posts how I feel about Trump…but “even a stopped clock…” and all that. (A cynic might note that yesterday NPR also admitted on air that it’s fighting for its life – well, for that 6% of expenses from federal funding…) ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/499 "2025-03-07T12:42:06Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > I have to admit, I heard a credible report on an NPR investigative program that the threat of tariffs really did help induce some Mexican officials to crack down (via police raids) on some fentanyl labs there. Of course, this will be hard to sustain – and, as long as American consumers crave the drug, the producers will find a way Right. Firstly it’s not that easy to win the war on drugs. But secondly, the tariffs would have caused a lot more pain overall, hence why he’s (been forced to) roll them back. I can give Trump credit where it’s due. Fast-tracking vaccine funding in his last term was good. But I suggest we not look for positive aspects of an overall negative policy. Otherwise when the economy crashes and businesses shutter we would be crediting him with bringing down CO2 emissions. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/500 "2025-03-07T13:42:29Z")
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