# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/581 "2025-04-01T04:44:17Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > the most recent time I suggested I didn’t support enforcing the law against someone who did nothing wrong, I was accused of being an anarchist lunatic Link or how the fuck are we supposed to determine whether your current position is reasonable? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/582 "2025-04-01T04:48:05Z")
How quickly you forget! It was less than a week ago and you were one of those who dogpiled me. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/583 "2025-04-01T04:50:40Z")
I’ve never called anyone a “anarchist lunatic” so you’ll have to forgive me not remembering this event based on you, very potentially, being an unreliable narrator. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/584 "2025-04-01T04:55:25Z")
I never said that you called me by those words. Your pile-on was more adroit. > [@User Jasmine’s opinions regarding the US system of jurisprudence](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/32): > > We interrupt this episode of The Pitting of Jasmin to bring an special episode of The Beckdawrek Show We interrupt this episode of The Beckdawrek Show to bring an special episode of The Smapti Show ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/585 "2025-04-01T05:03:59Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I never said that you called me by those words. No, in fact it was you who called you by those words, > [@User Jasmine’s opinions regarding the US system of jurisprudence](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/118): > > If I say rule of law is broken and direct action is necessary to fight fascism, it means I’m an anarchist lunatic. and the > [@Smapti](#): > > I suggested I didn’t support enforcing the law against someone who did nothing wrong, I was accused of being an anarchist lunatic “did nothing wrong” there was premeditated murder. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/586 "2025-04-01T05:09:43Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > “did nothing wrong” there was premeditated murder. John Brown also committed premeditated murder. Now who’s morally confused about helping escaped slaves? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/587 "2025-04-01T05:19:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > John Brown also committed premeditated murder. Now who’s morally confused about helping escaped slaves? Umm, you really can’t see that John Brown’s premeditated murders and helping escaped slaves are not the same thing? As I’ve told you before you do not have a working moral compass. Also, how long till you drop the pretenses and just come out and say that the way we fight MAGA is by murdering them? 'Cause your support of Mangioni and Brown’s acts make it very clear that that’s where you’re going. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/588 "2025-04-01T05:41:21Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Umm, you really can’t see that John Brown’s premeditated murders and helping escaped slaves are not the same thing? John Brown was an American hero who struck a blow for the oppressed against an amoral capitalist class that abused and murdered thousands of people a year in the name of profit and did so with the full protection of the law. The same goes for Luigi. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Also, how long till you drop the pretenses and just come out and say that the way we fight MAGA is by murdering them? Now see, if I believed as my detractors do that there was no legal way to stop Trump from doing whatever he wants, that might be the case. But I don’t believe that. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/589 "2025-04-01T05:43:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > John Brown was an American hero who struck a blow for the oppressed against an amoral capitalist class that abused and murdered thousands of people a year in the name of profit and did so with the full protection of the law. The same goes for Luigi. Hence your self identification as a anarchist lunatic! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/590 "2025-04-01T05:46:36Z")
Got it. I’m somehow a fascist and an anarchist. I’m all things to all people! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/591 "2025-04-01T05:52:43Z")
Planing on addressing this at any point? > [@Smapti](#): > > I was accused of being an anarchist lunatic Ya know the [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/118) you cited where you accused yourself of being an anarchist lunatic? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/592 "2025-04-01T06:04:40Z")
Clearly you lack reading comprehension if you can’t tell I was responding to people who accused me of such a thing, not identifying myself as such. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/593 "2025-04-01T06:08:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > reading comprehension Speaking of, are _I was accused of being an anarchist lunatic_ and _people accused me of such a thing_ the same? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/594 "2025-04-01T08:30:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > John Brown was an American hero who struck a blow for the oppressed against an amoral capitalist class that abused and murdered thousands of people a year in the name of profit and did so with the full protection of the law. The same goes for Luigi. John Brown was just another bloody-minded fanatic. That his cause was loosely just doesn’t justify his unjust actions. Luigi Mangione isn’t even that. Just a disturbed, murdering whackadoo with a generally incoherent and occasionally right-wing world view. Among other things he was “concerned about” was DEI, secularization, wokeism, the decline of traditional Christian values and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. He is more a symptom of modern American sickness than a cure for it. Guy is an odd hero for someone with your politics to latch onto. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/595 "2025-04-01T12:02:18Z")
It’s still imprinted in my mind that **Smapti:** - Equates Americans who are concerned with the apparent unchecked and gathering power of Trump with being – themselves – MAGAs - Implies that _being concerned_ renders these people unable, unwilling, and uninterested in trying to resist (as though their concerns inherently eliminate innumerable effective resistance tactics that would otherwise be easy, obvious, and readily available) - That – whether or not Trump brings up issues like a possible third term _in order to distract_ from everything else he’s doing – **Smapti’s** positions and inability to relax them at all on this board (‘A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.’ --Winston Churchill) _actually function as_ that kind of destructive distraction on these threads. I finally put him on ignore – 2nd poster I’ve ever taken that route with – only to finally learn what everybody else knows: the metaphorical Invisible Man still wreaks havoc on every place you’re trying to visit. You just can’t see him now. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/596 "2025-04-01T12:49:40Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump says he wants to do blatantly unconstitutional things all the time. That’s not new. His track record on actually accomplishing those things isn’t exactly stellar. It’s getting a heck of a lot “better” in this term. Implementing, as I say, plenty of things that were once dismissed as fearmongering. If you want to say that the courts eventually slap down some of these things…_so what_; that wasn’t the point. And you dismiss things like Greenland…the VP just went there, and Trump keeps talking about it. When members of the administration are asked about Greenland, they don’t know what to say. The standard line seems to be: Suggest Trump is trolling about X, but at the same time _talk up_ X, because it might happen. > [@Smapti](#): > > Assuming that just because Trump says he wants to do something means that there’s actually a way for him to do it or that he actually intends to do it is putting more stock in his mental faculties and his governmental acumen than there is any evidence for. No-one’s assuming anything. We’re simply discussing the fact that the president has explicitly and unambiguously said he will attempt to continue in his role beyond the constitutionally-mandated maximum time. You seem to want to shut down such conversation, for reasons that are unclear to me. You say there’s no benefit in discussing this…what’s the benefit of refusing to talk about it? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/597 "2025-04-01T21:24:39Z")
Fine. You wanna jerk yourselves off doomposting for the next four years? Have at it. You can apologize to me when we’re watching President Pritzker’s inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/598 "2025-04-01T21:32:39Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You can apologize to me when we’re watching President Pritzker’s inauguration. Somehow I doubt _you’ll_ apologize in the more likely scenario of Pritzker being arrested and imprisoned or killed for association with the Democratic party. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/599 "2025-04-01T21:33:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You wanna jerk yourselves off doomposting for the next four years? Have at it. Doom posting? The US president has already threatened invading a NATO country and more than doubled-down on it. Imposed tariffs on historic US allies. Ignores court orders at a whim. Suggests violating the clear and plain text of the constitution. But hey…nothing to see here. I hope you are right. I really do. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/600 "2025-04-01T21:55:46Z")
Innocent people being sent to an El Salvadorean supermax prison, or yanked off the streets and deported for disagreeing with Trump. It’s not a matter any more of “will the worst thing happen” it’s “at what scale will the worst thing happen at before it can be stopped?” Frankly, what’s happening now is _much worse than_ Trump getting a third term. If Trump somehow got on the ballot in 2028 and then people were fucking stupid enough to vote for him for a third time…yeah, I’d be pissed, but it wouldn’t in itself constitute the tearing apart of the rule of law or human decency. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=31)