# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/621 "2025-04-12T13:35:07Z")
Update on kilmar Garcia: the DOJ is currently playing dumb / ignoring the supreme court ruling. Its crazy but some analysts are saying we’re already close to a constitutional crisis on this. > **[DOJ Ignores Court Ordered Deadline for Plan to Return Wrongly Deported Man:...](https://www.latintimes.com/doj-ignores-court-ordered-deadline-plan-return-wrongly-deported-man-anyone-moving-any-kind-580553)** > > The Department of Justice failed to meet the Supreme Court's deadline to provide a plan to return a Maryland resident wrongly deported to El Salvador. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/622 "2025-04-12T17:24:44Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Supreme court rules, **in a 9-0 vote** , that Kilmar Abrego Garcia must be returned. So is he returned? Nope. Abrego Garcia could be returned to the USA in under twelve hours, allowing a liberal amount of time for processing. Yet he is not back. This is the Trumpist party testing out what happens if they simply ignore the law. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/623 "2025-04-12T18:09:40Z")
Note the post above yours. Yeah, it’s dark times. They aren’t just ignoring the law but the highest court. There’s nowhere to go from here. If the DOJ continue to be belligerant we may as well burn the constitution, it’s done. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/624 "2025-04-12T20:06:17Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Does SCOTUS have a mechanism for dealing with that? Yes. Folding. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/625 "2025-04-14T16:38:04Z")
[The MelonFelon is thumbing his nose at the Supreme Court:](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/13/politics/kilmar-abrego-garcia-trump-administration-filing/index.html) _“The federal courts have no authority to direct the Executive Branch to conduct foreign relations in a particular way, or engage with a foreign sovereign in a given manner,” the DOJ attorneys wrote in the seven-page filing, arguing officials have a duty only to “remove any domestic obstacles” that may stand in the way of Abrego Garcia returning to the US._ So now what? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/626 "2025-04-14T16:42:59Z")
Trump and Bukele are in agreement that Garcia will not be returned. > **[Bukele tells Trump El Salvador won't return mistakenly deported Kilmar Abrego...](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cwy03j9vddlt)** > > Donald Trump and Nayib Bukele are meeting in Washington after the Supreme Court ordered the administration to "facilitate" the return of Maryland man's return. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/627 "2025-04-14T16:44:56Z")
Considering he was allowed to stay here for arguably BS reasons, he will never be allowed to return to the US on his own. That does not mean I agree with Trump. If SCOTUS says he should be returned then BS or not, the Executive Branch needs to undo its error and return him. That’s how our government should work. It is also a dangerous precedent. The government could deport anyone even citizens than after the fact claim to be powerless to get them back. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/628 "2025-04-14T16:47:12Z")
He’s going to die in prison is the most likely outcome ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/629 "2025-04-14T16:48:40Z")
Yep. Guess Trump can do whatever he wants and no one can stop him here. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/630 "2025-04-14T16:54:10Z")
My best guess? Without the means to enforce, and with the White House realizing this, the Supreme Court will do nothing. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/631 "2025-04-14T16:58:53Z")
Also? Agent Orange says he’s just fine with sending American citizens to El Salvador’s gulag as well: [https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/14/us/trump-news-tariffs?unlocked\_article\_code=1.\_k4.Bvad.aNVnMG2kQlnj&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/14/us/trump-news-tariffs?unlocked_article_code=1._k4.Bvad.aNVnMG2kQlnj&smid=url-share) > President Trump just said he was open to sending American citizens convicted of violent crimes to President Bukele’s prison in El Salvador. Trump had a similar response when Bukele first [offered to jail convicted American criminals](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/04/us/politics/trump-el-salvador-americans-jail.html)in February. “I’m all for it,” Trump said, adding that his attorney general was studying whether the idea was legally feasible. “If it’s a homegrown criminal, I have no problem, no,” he said, adding: “I’m talking about violent people. I’m talking about really bad people.” Which I am sure will include anyone he doesn’t like. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/632 "2025-04-14T19:17:53Z")
Well, the USA is no longer a constitutional republic. That’s the first domino. Do not expect free and fair elections in 2026. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/633 "2025-04-14T19:24:09Z")
The thread title really hasn’t aged well. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/634 "2025-04-14T19:40:28Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Yep. Guess Trump can do whatever he wants and no one can stop him here. I’m trying to find something I saw on Facebook where Trump claims, among other things, that he is the “Chief Magistrate”, implying that he is the final authority on judicial matters and therefore can override any court rulings. Of course, since it was on Facebook it may be a fake. But it does sound like him. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/635 "2025-04-14T19:41:19Z")
Now that The Orange Shitbag has ignored one Supreme Court decision, the door is wide open to ignore any and all of them. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/636 "2025-04-14T19:55:42Z")
I’d like to see Trump try to say ‘magistrate’. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/637 "2025-04-14T21:25:38Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > The thread title really hasn’t aged well. Yeah. I don’t think even the staunchest defenders of the title’s sentiment will be back to the thread any time soon. > [@romansperson](#): > > Also? Agent Orange says he’s just fine with sending American citizens to El Salvador’s gulag as well: > > [https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/14/us/trump-news-tariffs?unlocked\_article\_code=1.\_k4.Bvad.aNVnMG2kQlnj&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/14/us/trump-news-tariffs?unlocked_article_code=1._k4.Bvad.aNVnMG2kQlnj&smid=url-share) > > > President Trump just said he was open to sending American citizens convicted of violent crimes to President Bukele’s prison in El Salvador. Trump had a similar response when Bukele first [offered to jail convicted American criminals](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/04/us/politics/trump-el-salvador-americans-jail.html)in February. “I’m all for it,” Trump said, adding that his attorney general was studying whether the idea was legally feasible. “If it’s a homegrown criminal, I have no problem, no,” he said, adding: “I’m talking about violent people. I’m talking about really bad people.” > > Which I am sure will include anyone he doesn’t like. Here’s the thing about the New York Times: they say flat out “open to sending American citizens convicted of violent crimes to President Bukele’s prison.” But TRUMP says nothing about “convicted of.” The whole point of the Abrego Garcia case is that HE HASN’T BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING. That’s why the Trumpites won’t budge an inch on this: they need to establish the precedent that _ **they can send anyone to a gulag with NO evidence, let alone conviction** _. Simply say ‘he’s a criminal’ and that’s it. Every despot’s dream. But the NYT felt it had to cover for their Trumpy-Wumpy and pretend he was ONLY going to send actually-convicted people to the concentration camps. Much good may it do them. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/638 "2025-04-14T21:40:49Z")
I’d _like_ to see him start with _Dobbs_, and then _Citizens United_, but my gut tells me … Yeah, no. This is Very Much Not Fucking GoodTM. _A long long time ago_ _I can still remember how that music_ _Used to make me smile_ ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/639 "2025-04-14T21:49:50Z")
If the supreme court didn’t just happen to want trump to have his way, I’d bet they would feel impotent any more. So this applies to everyone, right? Fuck what the courts say if you don’t like it? I can’t wait to get out there and express my lawlessness! Wooo-hooooo!! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/640 "2025-04-14T21:58:36Z")
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