# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/841 "2025-04-18T16:11:39Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > What is the point of this post? I understood the point of that post to be that Trump and ICE are ignoring due process. If they want to take you, they’ll take you, and it doesn’t matter what papers you have. It looks like the guy in Florida was released, but they ignored his papers and made him spend a night in jail. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/842 "2025-04-18T16:33:49Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > If they want to take you, they’ll take you, and it doesn’t matter what papers you have. That’s a very different statement than having your passport declared a forgery. I know things are bad, but exaggeration doesn’t help our side, especially when the exaggeration is also spreading one of the fascists’ talking points that resistance is futile. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/843 "2025-04-18T17:10:26Z")
I guess this is a case where the excluded middle is bigger than complete success or complete failure. So no, that trump can do whatever it wants is not a boring argument, he is trying his dimmest \*\*, but his results are a mixed bag, It is to the citizens of the US to record the times he fails too, as it is clear that even there, there is a lot of harm that he is doing. And in that view, in Trump’s little mind, he is succeeding because he still hurts a lot of the ones that he hates. We are not helpless, and we can do something, but one should not just look at the times he is stopped, we have to do the effort to oppose him even if he is getting his way at times. . . \*\* Yeah it is supposed to be dammest, but the grammar AI is onto something, so I leave it there… ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/844 "2025-04-18T19:00:10Z")
I think it’s “damnedest” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/845 "2025-04-18T19:17:25Z")
Dammest is the old fashion way to say it. . . . Yeah, I’m hitting 60 next year. So get off my lawn.. you wippersnapper!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/846 "2025-04-18T20:10:23Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Yeah, I’m hitting 60 next year. So get off my lawn.. you wippersnapper!! No way! I turn 60 in January. Who’s the whippersnapper now? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/847 "2025-04-18T20:16:08Z")
[Shakes tiny fist] You win this one, Optimus (past his) Prime! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/848 "2025-04-18T20:32:39Z")
Sure, he can rename the Gulf, but can he really rename dementia “Fred Trump’s Disease”? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/849 "2025-04-18T21:09:49Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Richard Nixon resigned with a 24% approval rating. Some people will never come to rationality absent a frontal lobotomy. Trump is almost twice that. It’s not a healthy country. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/850 "2025-04-18T23:21:46Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > What is the point of this post? > > Other posters are talking about practical steps that could be done, but this post wants to discount it as useless? Sounds exactly like Trump propaganda: “it doesn’t matter if you resist”. Some people prefer to wallow in despair and fancy themselves bold truth-tellers for doing so. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/851 "2025-04-18T23:26:15Z")
One difference – only one of many – is that, in the Nixon days, we basically all got our news from the same (or relatively equivalent) places. There wasn’t a RW Fantasyland … yet … though Roger Ailes **[proposed it](https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2011/memo-from-1970-a-plan-for-putting-the-gop-on-tv-news/)** to Nixon in 1970. RW media could very well have saved Nixon’s bacon. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/852 "2025-04-19T00:47:22Z")
Cross posted from another Trump thread: White House announces new elements of its “Fuck the Constitution, the Supreme Court, and America in general” policy: > Still bored? ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/853 "2025-04-19T01:05:21Z")
Edit to change: moving on ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/854 "2025-04-19T01:12:17Z")
Is this the official White House thread? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/855 "2025-04-19T03:03:43Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > One difference – only one of many – is that, in the Nixon days, we basically all got our news from the same (or relatively equivalent) places. The excellent Slow Burn podcast “The Rise of Fox News” talks about this. Gathering around the water cooler is now dead as we all listen and watch different things. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/856 "2025-04-19T06:43:30Z")
Real White House account, yes. Note that the NYT headline they purport to “fix” isn’t a real NYT one, but that’s hardly the point. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/857 "2025-04-19T11:36:06Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Then riddle me this, Nostradamus: why did Trump back down and pause the majority of the tariffs for 90 days? Well, we have an answer. [https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-tariff-pause-navarro-bessent-lutnick-b9e864fb](https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-tariff-pause-navarro-bessent-lutnick-b9e864fb) > [@](#): > > So that morning, when Navarro was scheduled to meet with economic adviser Kevin Hassett in a different part of the White House, Bessent and Lutnick made their move, according to multiple people familiar with the intervention. > > They rushed to the Oval Office to see Trump and propose a pause on some of the tariffs-without Navarro there to argue or push back. They knew they had a tight window. > > The meeting with Bessent and Lutnick wasn’t on > > Trump’s schedule. > > The two men convinced Trump of the strategy to pause some of the tariffs and to announce it immediately to calm the markets. They stayed until Trump tapped out a Truth Social post, which surprised Navarro, according to one of the people familiar with the episode. Bessent and press secretary Karoline Leavitt almost immediately went to the cameras outside the White House to make a public announcement. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/858 "2025-04-19T12:58:41Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > So that morning, when Navarro was scheduled to meet with economic adviser Kevin Hassett in a different part of the White House, Bessent and Lutnick made their move, according to multiple people familiar with the intervention. Nothing more stable than a government that constantly vacillates depending on who the boss last talked to. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/859 "2025-04-20T21:47:56Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Nothing more stable than a government that constantly vacillates depending on who the boss last talked to. And don’t think that people with money to invest haven’t noticed! ---
**Author:** ![IkesAcolyte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ikesacolyte/32/19012_2.png) [@IkesAcolyte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IkesAcolyte)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/860 "2025-04-21T15:35:17Z")
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