# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/881 "2025-04-27T22:48:23Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > That creative bon mot “are you bored now” really put me in my place. I shall hide my head in shame. Don’t bother. Never forget, you’re a Doper (and a pretty well-respected one at that)! If your thread title needs some notes perhaps they should be less _are you bored now_ and more _It’s not all that common, either_. (If the posts in this thread appear to belie that, I attribute much of that to @Smapti’s insistent assertions that look like _anything less than 100% agreement with me is tantamount to unconditional surrender_. TBH, I find it a little strident.) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/882 "2025-04-28T12:23:39Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > > Which “non war-time president” are you referring to, given that thanks to the 1976 National Emergencies Act we have been in one “state of emergency” or another for literally decades? And in recent years a handful of members of Congress have floated proposals to dial that back… with no real success. And it will be even harder now because everyone will “know who this is about” and make it personal. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/883 "2025-04-29T16:24:15Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Don’t bother. Never forget, you’re a Doper (and a pretty well-respected one at that)! Agree. It’s the syncophants in congress that should start taking heat for this. Impeach him already. They had two times to do it, but didn’t. I can’t believe for a second that Trump is the master mind behind destroying our economy. The mans simply a moron. But as far as destroying our relations with other countries, well he’s a bully. That’s all he knows. He thinks that’s winning. Again, a moron. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/884 "2025-04-29T16:42:55Z")
> **[Trump is the Godfather in Reverse](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/trump-is-the-godfather-in-reverse)** > > He’s making offers countries can’t accept While Krugman makes a good point, I would say that Trump is actually making offers other countries can’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/885 "2025-04-29T16:48:51Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > …you’re aware that Trump didn’t magically seize these powers, right? Congress has (to their _great shame_) ceded these powers to president after president, starting a very long time ago. And that is where this is unforgivable on Congress’ part. Obama used a lot of power that Congress had given the presidency and when they complained about it, he simply stated, “Hey, you made this the system.” If they were so worried about this “usurption” of power then they should have fixed it the first chance they got. They didn’t and here we are so fuck them. And yes, I’d feel the exact same way for the exact same reason if someone s murdered in the Zone of Death. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/886 "2025-04-29T17:14:24Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Obama used a lot of power that Congress had given the presidency and when they complained about it, he simply stated, ‘Hey, leopards gotta eat!’ ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/887 "2025-04-29T17:19:02Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I can’t believe for a second that Trump is the master mind behind destroying our economy. The mans simply a moron. That’s exactly _why_ he’s wrecking the economy. You don’t need to be clever to ruin things. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/888 "2025-04-29T17:33:01Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I can’t believe for a second that Trump is the master mind behind destroying our economy. The mans simply a moron. I can believe that there are ‘’‘’‘master minds’‘’‘’ that think destroying the economy will result in something positive for them and they have ~~Trump’s ear~~ Trump by the ear. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/889 "2025-04-29T17:53:27Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > It’s the syncophants in congress that should start taking heat for this. ISWYDT ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/890 "2025-04-29T18:42:53Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > I would say that Trump is actually making offers other countries can’t understand. Oh, we understand them just fine. Trump isn’t smart enough to actually come up with something complicated, after all. He wants one-on-one trade negotiations because he’s literally too stupid to understand multilateral trade talks. And ultimately, all his “deals” come down to the same thing: Give him everything, you get nothing, and you must praise him for his genius and thank him for his generosity as well. That’s stupid, but not difficult to comprehend. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/891 "2025-04-29T19:07:25Z")
I was riffing on the old joke about the mafia don of some particular ethnic group or other who was so dumb he made you an offer you couldn’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/892 "2025-04-29T19:15:09Z")
Well, clearly I didn’t understand Don [Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion), then. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/893 "2025-04-29T20:36:42Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > That’s exactly _why_ he’s wrecking the economy. You don’t need to be clever to ruin things. I don’t think he came up with the idea by himself though. He wouldn’t know a tariff from a sheriff. May he please discover the difference soon. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I can believe that there are ‘’‘’‘master minds’‘’‘’ that think destroying the economy will result in something positive for them and they have ~~Trump’s ear~~ Trump by the ear. Yes, and laughing all the way to the bank. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/894 "2025-04-29T21:12:50Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > I would say that Trump is actually making offers other countries can’t understand. Making and getting them done. In the recent Times interview he claims he has already struck 200 trade deals. We are all eagerly awaiting the details of these trade deals that should all be released in two weeks! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/895 "2025-04-29T21:21:48Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > In the recent Times interview he claims he has already struck 200 trade deals. That’d be quite the achievement, since the US only recognizes 197 independent countries. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/896 "2025-04-29T21:49:27Z")
According to Scott Bessant, they are “Sub-Deals” and “Bespoke Deals” Nobody is sure what the heck he meant by that. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/897 "2025-04-29T22:00:25Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > According to Scott Bessant, they are “Sub-Deals” and “Bespoke Deals” Just what i was gonna say. Bessant seems to have become the unofficial interpreter for Trumpspeak in this go-around. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/898 "2025-04-29T23:34:01Z")
More of a parrot than an interpreter. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/899 "2025-04-30T00:20:24Z")
I am enjoying how poorly Bessent lies though. Nervously clearing his throat, fiddling with his glasses etc, right at the point where he needs to improv up some bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/900 "2025-04-30T01:50:53Z")
Who doesn’t love a gazillion bespoke deals? That’s how you get the economy roaring back to life when every industry has its own fake-ass deal! Shit is going south. I’m waiting for Trump to back-pedal on everything and then wonder why things don’t rebound quickly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=46)