# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring

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**Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> other posters in thread. Not mine

> [@The 22nd Amendment. Solved: how "serve" became "elected"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22nd-amendment-solved-how-serve-became-elected/1025232):
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> In many threads here on the Dope, the question of a possible Trump third term re: the 22nd Amendment had come to the question can he do an end around if he is not elected? For example, he is elected Vice-President and the winning President resigns as soon as the Secretary of State is confirmed. On that, we talk about the distinction of “serving as President” and “elected President” and we note the Senate deliberately changed “serve” to “elected” I do not think this will be the last word on tha…

Your honor, the prosecution rests.

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As opposed to “I don’t have to do anything-it’ll fix itself”?

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As opposed to “it’s not possible to break it that way”.

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Your honor, the prosecution rests.

Did you even read that post? It’s the history from 1947 of how the wording of the 22nd Amendment was changed by the Senate. It does not discuss anything about how it applies to Trump and especially I never said “Derp! There’s nothing anyone can do if he runs again despite the 22nd Amendment.” Can you quote where I said anything like that in the post or is this more proof that you cannot read for comprehension. You’re not even smart enough to be a dumbass if **that** is what you’re bringing as proof.

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> what you’re bringing as proof.

What I’m bringing as proof is your seemingly incessant desire to figure out some way to figure out a scheme that gets Trump a third term.

The Republicans, as far as I can tell, were clearly intending that there never be another FDR. That bit of stupidity on their part is something that we shouldn’t be trying to figure a way out of for them.

Of course, we still have the ‘rules for thee but not for we’ loophole . . . and that’s all any reasonable person should allow them to have.

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Still boring, guys?

The Monster just removed King Day and Juneteenth from the list of days when entry to national parks is free. Guess what day he added. Go ahead.

He added his own birthday.

They aren’t even trying to pretend anymore.

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> [@echoreply](#):
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> If the president is able to impose martial law nationwide (major cities, state capitals, etc.), then elections will be cancelled.

I don’t think cancellation is in the plans. Just a massive campaign to limit voting in the cities. That’s all. Would guarantee a massive Republican victory.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> They defied him by voting to release the Epstein files.

Which will never actually be released (at least the worst parts)

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Just a massive campaign to limit voting in the cities.

Him and what army?

I’m serious. There isn’t enough manpower for a “massive campaign” on US soil. ICE is stretched to its breaking point as it is and they’re padding out their ranks with incompetent buffoons who are scared of old women in their pajamas and hipsters in inflatable frog costumes.

If he tries to deploy the military into US cities to prevent people from voting, governors will fight back and the result will be civil war, mass defections and defections, mass casualties civilian and military, and economic collapse.

It is a fundamental building block of our Constitution that the states are co-sovereign and have the right to elect the president and their representatives to Congress. If the federal government decides to abrogate that agreement, I would personally call on the governor of my state to deem the Union to have been dissolved and the sovereignty of the federal government invalid, and I wouldn’t be the only one.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Him and what army?

ICE. The National Guard. Not to “stop voting” (at least that’s not what the excuse will be). To “restore order”. To “stop the rampant looting”. To “fight the out of control criminals”. So there will be court cases to stop them. These take time. By then, the election is over, and GOLLY! The turnout in certain cities will have plummeted. But elections happened. Nobody was prevented from voting, pinky promis. Oh well.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> ICE. The National Guard. Not to “stop voting” (at least that’s not what the excuse will be). To “restore order”. To “stop the rampant looting”. To “fight the out of control criminals”. So there will be court cases to stop them. These take time.

How’s that going for him in '“war-ravaged Portland”?

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> By then, the election is over, and GOLLY! The turnout in certain cities will have plummeted. But elections happened. Nobody was prevented from voting, pinky promis. Oh well.

You seem to assume everyone is going to take this lying down and just shrug and say “Well, what can ya do, I guess Trump is God Emperor now”, and not, say, secede or start storming federal buildings with torches and pitchforks.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You seem to assume everyone is going to take this lying down

Yes, I do assume that, since this seems to be EXACTLY what everyone is doing right now, and will continue to do. People will do absolutely nothing, as long as they can have some tasty fast food, and watch Netflix. Bread and circuses my friend.

Torches and pitchforks? Not likely. Perhaps a strongly worded email, or maybe they’ll change their status to “angry” on Tiktok.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> People will do absolutely nothing, as long as they can have some tasty fast food, and watch Netflix.

…which they’re not gonna be able to do if there are armed goons roaming the streets to stop people from voting and violently suppress all dissent against Dear Leader.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Torches and pitchforks? Not likely.

[![](https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2021/01/2021-12-30T185057Z_373982718_RC265R99JW0G_RTRMADP_3_USA-POLITICS-TRUMP-1024x693.jpg) ](https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2021/01/2021-12-30T185057Z_373982718_RC265R99JW0G_RTRMADP_3_USA-POLITICS-TRUMP-1024x693.jpg)

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If anti-Trump insurrectionists swarm the Capitol like Jan 6, ICE and federalized ttoops won’t hesitate to use live fire to mow down hundreds of demonstrators. They are looking for any excuse to violently suppress dissent.

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I’m not saying they’ll swarm the Capitol.

I’m saying they’ll swarm _every federal building in every major city in the country._

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Thousands will die.

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Unless Trump chickens out first, which he almost certainly will.

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Trump is a drooling brain stem at this point. He demonstrates daily he has little knowledge of what is being done in his name. Steven Miller, et al. are calling the shots.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > People will do absolutely nothing, as long as they can have some tasty fast food, and watch Netflix.
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> …which they’re not gonna be able to do if there are armed goons roaming the streets to stop people from voting and violently suppress all dissent against Dear Leader.

Sure they will. The city voters will avoid the streets and the goons, and just hunker down on the couch with some popcorn. This is the entire point. They won’t go out. They won’t vote.

And your torches and pitchfork crowd in your picture? Those are the violent MAGAts who will be out in the streets suppressing the vote. The normal, regular D voters do not do shit like this. Your fantasies about “the people” rising up because they won’t stand for it anymore? Simply won’t happen. Democracy will die with a whimper.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> The city voters will avoid the streets and the goons, and just hunker down on the couch with some popcorn.

> **[The Pedestrian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pedestrian)**
>
> "The Pedestrian" is a science fiction short story by American writer Ray Bradbury. This story was originally published in the August 7, 1951 issue of The Reporter by The Fortnightly Publishing Company. It is included in the collection The Golden Apples of the Sun (1953), but was dropped from later editions of this collection (1990 and 1997).
> The story features Leonard Mead, a citizen of a television-centered world in November 2053.\[notes 1\] In the city, the sidewalks have fallen into decay. M...

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