# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1342 "2026-01-05T14:14:34Z")
Truely @Jasmine .The man has gone completly off the rails. Again. We have a Traitor in the White House. A rapist, a bigot, and a racist and covicted felon. Also VERY likely a pedofile. Now a war crimminal. And, he managed to get worse. I don’t want to know what’s next. WE MUST take the keys away from this senile fool. He started off mean and stupid and now he is worse. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1343 "2026-01-05T14:19:59Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > And, he managed to get worse. I don’t want to know what’s next. WE MUST take the keys away from this senile fool. He started off mean and stupid and now he is worse. My bet is his approval rating goes up after this. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1344 "2026-01-05T14:28:25Z")
This sounds like doomerism - this term, most of what Trump has done has been wildly unpopular. They (the administration) just don’t seem to care. But they haven’t been able to stop any elections so far, and I see no evidence they’re laying the strong groundwork they’d need to try and stop elections later this year. So unpopularity will mean something soon. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1345 "2026-01-05T14:33:42Z")
we’ll see, but America loves killing brown people and there’s a reason every president does it. Looking at you Obama with your drones. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1346 "2026-01-05T14:35:56Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > But they haven’t been able to stop any elections so far, and I see no evidence they’re laying the strong groundwork they’d need to try and stop elections later this year. The repeated efforts to normalize the presence of the military in American cities, coupled with the recent [**USPS-announced changes to postmark policies**](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/12/30/us-postal-service-changes-postmark-rules-what-to-know/87960162007/) may survive a cursory look, but anything closer … is very worrisome. _“Get all the white people out to the polling places, and let’s just see all the minorities vote by mail”_ kinda’ thing. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1347 "2026-01-05T14:37:05Z")
Yes, it’s worrisome. But they’ve been trying things like this, and it hasn’t helped them in recent elections. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1348 "2026-01-05T14:42:49Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Yes, it’s worrisome. But they’ve been trying things like this, and it hasn’t helped them in recent elections He staged an attempted coup and then got eleccted by the American people four years later. ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1349 "2026-01-05T14:48:00Z")
I don’t think the postmark thing has much (if anything) to do with elections - most states require the ballots to be received by Election Day, not simply postmarked by Election Day. (only about 14 base it on the postmark) and most people won’t have a problem putting the ballot in the mail a week before election day. Which is not to say I don’t think they will try to interfere with elections or depress voting in certain groups, I just don’t think the postmark change has anything to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1350 "2026-01-05T15:18:07Z")
My point is that voters can reject him and his policies, and they have in the '25 elections, and so far signs are that they will in the midterms. We’ll see, but I see no reason to believe this war will improve his popularity. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1351 "2026-01-05T15:21:51Z")
I don’t see it that way. First, the 14 states are: WA, OR, CA, DC, MD, NV, AK, TX, IL, MS, NY, NJ, PA, MA, along with a few territories and possessions. The vote often comes down to inches, races won or lost at the margins. These policies affect voters at the margins. And as a former Corporate VP who learned how to write database queries in order to readily access business-critical data, I _know_ that _these_ people aren’t stupid. They know who they’ll likely ensnare each time they cast their insidious net. And as a game of inches, won or lost at the margins, they simply need to amass and enact enough “the impact is so minimal as to be inconsequential” actions in order to tip a close race. Lots of conservative talking heads remark how Trump built a coalition of very small groups, one by one by one by one, eventually accumulating enough support to win the election. Twice. If there is a relatively benign explanation _alongside_ a clearly malevolent explanation – with these people – err toward the side of malevolence. These are the kind of things they’re doing _overtly._ What, pray tell, might they be doing _covertly_? Nothing good. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1352 "2026-01-05T15:42:39Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > Now that he is bombing and invading democratic nations and kidnapping their duly elected leaders, is it still boring? Let’s not overexaggerate here. Venezuela is far from a democratic nation, and Maduro’s election was an electoral coup d’etat in all but name. The worst part of this is that its initial success will encourage Trump to start doing the same. Rubio wants to go after Cuba next, but I’d say the odds of a Greenland takeover just shot up considerably - and that will be the case of a democratic nation, so I’ll abandon the criticism of hyperbole then - and, hell, even Canada’s number is closer to being up if Trump gets itchy before Venezuela visibly goes to hell in a handbasket. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1353 "2026-01-05T16:18:34Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > Let’s not overexaggerate here. I’m Italian. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1354 "2026-01-05T17:01:39Z")
I think it is less that they think it will return to normal after Trump leaves, and more they think they can placate others into believing that Trump can’t do much because he is leaving soon and things will return to normal. Pretty much the same people have been making the “Trump is pretty much a fool you can ignore, so don’t worry your heads about him” claim since he first came on the scene, and very few of them have ever given an apology for being stupendously wrong. What they are doing is deliberate sabotage, not foolishness. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1355 "2026-01-05T17:26:41Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I see no reason to believe this war will improve his popularity. War pretty much always improves a president’s popularity. Rally round the flag effect. Hopefully this time it will only be a short-term. bump. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1356 "2026-01-05T17:32:10Z")
I remember when he first got elected how dismissive some people here were about the existential threat MAGA poses to America, I seem to recall the word hysterical thrown around fairly recently. At this point I think all we have left is that we get to say “ told you so.” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1357 "2026-01-05T17:34:47Z")
One thing that will happen is that a lot of those Venezuelans in the US who, upon seeing ICE go after their relatives and friends, were having second thoughts about supporting him, now are going to fall back in. And yeah, all the “he’s a clinical imbecile who’s stumbling into power by accident” talk over the past 10 years is no consolation in the face of what he’s doing with that power. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1358 "2026-01-05T17:43:16Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > At this point I think all we have left is that we get to say “ told you so.” I get to say “Actually, he’s turned out _worse_ than I feared back then.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1359 "2026-01-05T17:48:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What they are doing is deliberate sabotage Shit in the punch bowl and leave the party. Though Trump is absolutely to stupid to understand that he left a mess. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1360 "2026-01-05T18:03:33Z")
To Trump and his Trumpettes, including the saboteurs who are trying to tell us there is nothing to worry about, the “mess” is something they want. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1361 "2026-01-05T19:00:54Z")
I want my wife to learn how to shoot. That’s how far this has come. She is sort of agreeing. I’m a shooter (since I was 9yo). She is not. We don’t want CCW. But she should know how to handle a weapon. This is all due to Trump and the MAGA idiots. She should at least know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=67) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=69)