# The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527 "2024-12-12T02:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1482 "2026-01-07T02:32:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Tell me what you believe can be done to stop Trump, then By us? Nothing. But others certainly could stop him. But they don’t seem to wish to ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1483 "2026-01-07T02:38:32Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > The Republican party becoming, somewhat, sane again. And the best thing we can do to bring that about is to give MAGA a solid thrashing at the ballot box. Which means we should stop indulging fantasies of canceled or rigged elections and mass murders that will discourage people from voting or running for office. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1484 "2026-01-07T02:39:24Z")
With a resistance like this, who needs supporters? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1485 "2026-01-07T02:42:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Which means we should stop indulging fantasies of … rigged elections Yes, the new postmark rule is just a fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1486 "2026-01-07T02:42:20Z")
I don’t think you’re getting it. Republicans are fundraising for an “election” so they can get money to line their pockets. The fix is in - they will get “elected” and get to keep the money. Win-win. Of course there will be an “election”. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1487 "2026-01-07T02:45:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The fix is in - they will get “elected” and get to keep the money. Win-win. Do you think you’re going to get undecided and uncommitted voters to the polls by telling them the result has already been decided and their vote doesn’t matter? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1488 "2026-01-07T02:46:17Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Quite a few things have changed. Trump is now a decade older. He’s in far worse health physically and mentally. His dementia makes him easier to manipulate. You don’t think he came up with all the mayhem being inflicted this term. Do you? > [@](#): > > He’s surrounded himself with far less competent cronies. Less competent at governance. Very competent at flipping the table. This is what Putin wants. Weaken America in every aspect. > [@](#): > > His approval rating is down. That’s consistent for authoritarians. They don’t care if we like them, so long as we fear them. > [@](#): > > The economy is much worse and there’s an impending financial catastrophe in the works when the AI bubble bursts. He has profited by $1 billion a month since inauguration. Best estimates have his crypto holdings at $11 billion. He really doesn’t care about anyone else. > [@](#): > > Many of his former strongest allies in Congress have turned on him. Too few to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1489 "2026-01-07T02:47:43Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Yes, the new postmark rule is just a fantasy. Sorry, I didn’t realize that the new postmark rule was an insurmountable obstacle. Maybe we could try encouraging people to vote sooner instead of telling them the Republicans will win no matter what. Remember when Trump ran on “they’re gonna rig the election” in 2020 and lost, and then ran on “we need to make it too big to rig” in 2024 and won? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1490 "2026-01-07T02:47:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Do you think you’re going to get undecided and uncommitted voters to the polls by telling them the result has already been decided and their vote doesn’t matter? Currently, I am learning to fly drones. I think that’s a reasonable thing to do when threatened by a former ally with an enormous military, who has just kidnapped the president of a sovereign nation. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1491 "2026-01-07T02:52:07Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Maybe we could try encouraging people to vote Have you met the American voter? Specifically leftist voters? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1492 "2026-01-07T02:53:43Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > That’s consistent for authoritarians. They don’t care if we like them, so long as we fear them. You don’t BECOME a dictator with a 36% approval rating. Not if you want your dictatorship to last more than a couple of hours. > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > He has profited by $1 billion a month since inauguration. Best estimates have his crypto holdings at $11 billion. Guess what’s gonna happen to those crypto holdings when the AI bubble bursts? > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Have you met the American voter? Specifically leftist voters Yes. It’s like herding cats at the best of times. All the more reason not to tell them voting doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1493 "2026-01-07T02:55:15Z")
If that is actually the way you remember it, then any attempts at reality based responses will be totally lost on you. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1494 "2026-01-07T02:58:53Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > All the more reason not to tell them voting doesn’t matter. If the country can’t count on people voting in their own self interest, which they consistently do not do, then voting does not matter. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1495 "2026-01-07T03:00:07Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If that is actually the way you remember it It’s what happened. He told his voters in 2020 the election was going to be rigged and convinced them not to bother voting. He told them to vote anyway in 2024 and they did. [https://www.npr.org/2024/06/20/g-s1-4833/trump-too-big-to-rig-drill-baby-swamp-the-vote-rally-maga-2024](https://www.npr.org/2024/06/20/g-s1-4833/trump-too-big-to-rig-drill-baby-swamp-the-vote-rally-maga-2024) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1496 "2026-01-07T03:00:35Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > If the country can’t count on people voting in their own self interest, which they consistently do not do, then voting does not matter You’re not gonna get hired as a campaign manager any time soon, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1497 "2026-01-07T03:03:09Z")
How you manage to walk around with rose-colored glasses and blinders on at the same time is simply astonishing. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1498 "2026-01-07T03:03:31Z")
This is my go to now since it came from the main arguer that Trump is stoppable. And they posted it originally…in this thread. [The Simpsons - Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP92CyL8aNM) > [@Smapti](#): > > There have been times and situations in which Trump has been stopped, and I continue to hold that he is not undefeatable and that this madness shall pass, but I must admit that emerging circumstances have made me feel more and more like Marge Simpson of late. But other than that, how did you enjoy the play? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1499 "2026-01-07T03:04:31Z")
It’s how I avoid things like John Fetterman. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1500 "2026-01-07T03:26:11Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > This is my go to now since it came from the main arguer that Trump is stoppable. And they posted it originally…in this thread. You _really_ think the fact that I made a joke about myself with a Simpsons reference is some kind of gotcha ya, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527/1501 "2026-01-07T03:28:45Z")
Why did you post it then? This is your full quote: > [@Smapti](#): > > There have been times and situations in which Trump has been stopped, and I continue to hold that he is not undefeatable and that this madness shall pass, but I must admit that emerging circumstances have made me feel more and more like Marge Simpson of late. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-argument-that-trump-will-do-whatever-he-wants-and-no-one-can-stop-him-is-really-fucking-boring/1011527.md?page=76)