# The Arizona "audit" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 20, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239 "2021-08-20T21:16:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/81 "2021-09-24T11:43:40Z")
It’s from the ridiculous to the sublime, and then right back to the ridiculous. Or, maybe the other way around. I LOVE the fact that the County went even more for Biden than the official count. Biden should start whining about conspiracies against him and illegal votes. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/82 "2021-09-24T12:22:58Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Not to be deterred, Texas now wants to audit their 2020 results. To take attention away from all the Covid deaths, I suppose. And not all of Texas but only from 4 major urban counties that either went to Biden (Tarrant, Harris, Dallas, i.e. Fort Worth, Houston, Dallas) or went to Trump but was surprisingly closer than expected (Collin - suburban Dallas and typically heavily conservative). They’re getting set up for the midterms and more importantly for 2024. > [@RitterSport](#): > > Biden should start whining about conspiracies against him and illegal votes. Absolutely not! That’s the whole point of the “audits” - not to win but to introduce doubt into our electoral process (and also to temporarily appease the ego of a whiny man-child). Even jokingly, the idea of helping them undermine our democracy is terrifying. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/83 "2021-09-24T12:40:10Z")
I think the point was to give them a reason to pass their draconian voter restrictions, so that mission is already accomplished. Obviously, I don’t really want Biden to start whining like the little toddler that the previous president was. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/84 "2021-09-24T14:01:15Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I think the point was to give them a reason to pass their draconian voter restrictions, so that mission is already accomplished. It was also to give cover for future “audits”. And with this result confirming Biden’s win, the claim in future will be that clearly it was a ‘fair’ outcome so there shouldn’t be any objections to more of these on all elections. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/85 "2021-10-01T03:36:46Z")
Yesterday was the deadline set for Cyber Ninjas and all subcontractors to turn over all communication relating to the “audit”. I have not seen an articles stating that they have done so. Even if they do I imagine it will take some time for the news organizations to go through them and find if there are any smoking guns contained in them. The final report seems to have done little to dissuade Trump supporters from believing the nonsense they have been spouting, and Trump certainly claimed a victory during his Georgia speech. Still I want to know the e-mails, memos, and all other communication associated with the audit has been made public as law decrees. There may be some interesting details amidst a great pile of boring procedural boilerplate. Here is the same link that I put into post #31 above (but more discreet): [Arizona Senate president tells Cyber Ninjas to 'immediately make available' records on election audit](https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-senate-president-tells-cyber-160443927.html) ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/86 "2021-10-02T15:00:19Z")
If this era of right wing nuttery ends in my lifetime I’m gonna look back and marvel at how canny Trumpistas were at demanding that Dems prove their innocence while never being held even remotely accountable for proving their own case. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/87 "2021-10-02T15:56:51Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > If this era of right wing nuttery ends in my lifetime I’m gonna look back and marvel at how canny Trumpistas were at demanding that Dems prove their innocence while never being held even remotely accountable for proving their own case. Will you marvel if it _doesn’t_ end in your lifetime? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/88 "2021-10-03T01:00:15Z")
How could he? Because he’d be, you know, dead an’ shite. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/89 "2021-10-03T01:03:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > How could he? Because he’d be, you know, dead an’ shite. Heh, my mistake. Okay; how about a deathbed utterance? Last words on a par with _Thomas Jefferson Still Survives_, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/90 "2021-10-03T01:45:25Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Heh, my mistake. Okay; how about a deathbed utterance? Last words on a par with _Thomas Jefferson Still Survives_ , maybe? FWIW, Jefferson had died a few hours earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/91 "2021-10-03T12:55:25Z")
I hope they’re not “That awful man is still alive.” ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/92 "2021-10-04T07:16:35Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > How could he? Because he’d be, you know, dead an’ shite. Well, if he doesn’t come to my funeral, I won’t go to his. (Shamelessly, or maybe shamefully, stolen (with minor paraphrasing) from Walt Kelly of Pogo fame.) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/93 "2021-10-04T18:59:47Z")
Who stole it from way back. [https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/09/27/funeral/](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/09/27/funeral/) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/94 "2021-10-11T16:57:49Z")
Now in my Facebook feed: > Arizona Election Audit Summary: > Over 50,000 illegal votes in Maricopa County alone, which is 5x what’s needed to overturn Biden’s “victory” in Arizona by 10,547 votes. > > The AZ Senate has referred multiple criminal investigations to the AZ Attorney General and people will likely be going to jail. > > The Arizona Senate must decertify the 2020 election results and other states need to conduct election audits to restore faith in our voting system. Where to people get this shit? As far as I can tell, there isn’t a hint of truth in any of it. Yet this kind of stuff is more than enough to convince a sizeable minority that Biden stole the election. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/95 "2021-10-11T17:13:20Z")
It used to be amusing that dumb people believed something merely because they saw it on the internet. It is no longer amusing, because it turns out that there are LOTS of dumb people, and lots of them vote. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/96 "2021-10-11T23:51:55Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > And this is why they will remain in contempt forever! You’re mixing up your prepositions. The word you’re looking for is _beneath_. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/97 "2021-10-12T02:53:07Z")
Of course, thank you for the correction. (And last I have heard no documents have made their way to the public. Remember when subpoenas and court orders used to mean something? Before the party of law and order decided to ignore the rule of law — well, and all decency?) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/98 "2021-11-23T16:59:23Z")
Bumping this This is very sad. Apparently Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, is two million dollars in debt because of the audit. > **[Somehow the Guy Who Tried to Steal Arizona for Trump Is Now Broke](https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vdjk/cyber-ninja-ceo-doug-logan-in-debt?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_source=reddit.com)** > > Doug Logan, the CEO of Cyber Ninjas, says he’s $2 milllion in debt. To quote fellow election-truther Nick Moseder: _While many people got VERY RICH off of the AZ audit, Doug Logan is over two million dollars in debt, with no other income. I believe he was anticipating more audits to make for his losses and kept being reassured “don’t worry about the money, America has your back._ And Mexico’s paying for the wall. It really IS grift all the way down. Now we have to go do more audits, not because anyone thinks there’s fraud - but because Doug Logan just had a baby ninja and since he landed at the bottom of the grift pyramid, we just have to keep the scam going a little bit longer so we can pull in more suckers to cover Logan’s losses. Fuck democracy, diapers are expensive. See, our poor unfortunate Cyber Ninja doesn’t have any way to make money other than begging for donations from brainwashed marks, and he just had his _twelfth_ child. So much for the doctrine of personal responsibility and living with consequences of your actions. Go get a job and buy a box of rubbers, dude. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/99 "2021-11-23T17:29:30Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > This is very sad. Apparently Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, is two million dollars in debt because of the audit. Aww. I am heart-rent at this. Speaking of rent, can’t we Dopers take up a collection or something to help the guy out? I’ll donate a quatloo. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/100 "2021-11-23T17:58:17Z")
Not to worry. There are probably plenty of rubes/marks out there who will send him some cash that they were going to waste on food and medicine for their own kids. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239.md?page=6)