# The Arizona "audit" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 20, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239 "2021-08-20T21:16:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/121 "2022-01-07T17:33:23Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > CyberNinjas slink away in bankrupt ignominy. Not necessarily. More likely they’re shutting down so the owners can run off with the millions they got from Trump supporters. It’s all about the grift. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/122 "2022-01-07T17:38:22Z")
Here’s as much backstory on The Arizona Republic suit as I can find: [Arizona court rejects another Cyber Ninjas request to keep audit records secret](https://ktar.com/story/4762836/court-rejects-another-cyber-ninjas-request-to-keep-audit-records-secret/) Looks like the only proper news source for Arizona, AZ Central, is paywalled and none of the East Coast companies can be bothered to send reporters West of the Mississippi. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/123 "2022-01-07T17:39:37Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Not necessarily. More likely they’re shutting down so the owners can run off with the millions they got from Trump supporters. The judge noted that Cyber Ninja personnel might be held personally and individually liable. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/124 "2022-01-07T18:12:53Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > …none of the East Coast companies can **be bothered** to send reporters West of the Mississippi. /irrelevant nitpick/ I’d change bolded to “afford”. /i.n./ ETA: Scratching head over how some links work with some folks but not others. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/125 "2022-01-07T18:13:59Z")
Yeah, judge Hannah isn’t dicking around. Disbanding their company isn’t going to cut it. Imposing a fine that was fifty times more than requested, and explicitly stating that he wasn’t going to accept that Cyber Ninjas was a “empty shell” with “no one responsible”? He’s going to get those documents or heads are going to roll. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/126 "2022-01-07T22:13:11Z")
Here’s some news: > **[Cyber Ninjas chief wants to start new firm with same workers](https://apnews.com/article/business-elections-arizona-donald-trump-phoenix-d8b3cacba3871121dbaff0f14824fcb4)** > > PHOENIX (AP) — The Donald Trump supporter hired to run a review of the 2020 election in Arizona told the state Senate president he’s starting a new company with some of the same employees as Cyber Ninjas, the old firm he's closing as it faces massive... ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/127 "2022-01-07T23:03:49Z")
That’s sure to work - but only if they wear Groucho glasses. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/128 "2022-01-07T23:04:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Not necessarily. More likely they’re shutting down so the owners can run off with the millions they got from Trump supporters. > > It’s all about the grift. You think they got paid? The would-be grifters got grifted themselves and are millions in debt. It’s grifts all the way down! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/129 "2022-01-07T23:05:05Z")
I thought the company got about $6m in donations from the Trump rubes? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/130 "2022-01-07T23:07:06Z")
Yeah, which they spent and then some. The donations dried up last summer when it became clear they weren’t getting anywhere. Great Trump supporters. Not so great at this business thing. Or at grifting. Actually, one wonders if they’re competent at anything. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/131 "2022-01-07T23:20:48Z")
Chalk it up as another example of something that turned to shit and fucking died as a result of proximity to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/132 "2022-01-07T23:22:38Z")
I keep expecting people who love Trump to learn. For some reason, they never do. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/133 "2022-01-07T23:26:21Z")
It’s lovely to watch, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/134 "2022-01-07T23:27:03Z")
This time, for sure! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/135 "2022-01-07T23:27:32Z")
It’s like watching a horror movie but the protagonist and antagonist are the same person and everyone else in the movie is just an idiot who goes off on their own to die gruesomely. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/136 "2022-01-07T23:31:28Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > It’s lovely to watch, isn’t it? It’s lovely at first until you realize there’s no end in sight. No matter how many times Trump throws one of his former supporters under the bus or proponents of a stolen election theory fail to offer evidence there are always some else to take up the former president’s cause. Enjoying their failure is just not satisfying at this point. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/137 "2022-01-07T23:34:13Z")
I meant in the immediate, temporary sense. Like looking up at night and happening to see a shooting star. Lovely. Just with more predictability. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/138 "2022-01-07T23:35:54Z")
Looks like the jaguars are munching on another few faces. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/139 "2022-01-08T00:00:11Z")
Leopards, please. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239/140 "2022-01-08T00:35:55Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I meant in the immediate, temporary sense. Like looking up at night and happening to see a shooting star. Lovely. Just with more predictability. But after awhile, even shooting stars get boring, and you start wishing for a comet or random Chinese boosters or the Death Star to show up. Something _shiny_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-audit/949239.md?page=8)