# The Arizona recount--reactions?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 18, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378 "2021-05-18T16:19:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/161 "2021-09-24T15:50:34Z")

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I wonder if they ever found any bamboo.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/162 "2021-09-24T15:58:39Z")

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They threw it in the water.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/163 "2021-09-24T16:03:01Z")

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Me ol’ bamboo, me ol’ bamboo  
You better never bother with me ol’ bamboo  
You can have me hat or me bumbershoot  
But you better never bother with me ol’ bamboo

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/164 "2021-09-24T16:07:08Z")

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There was great excitement at Cyber Ninjas when a large number of ballots had a similar stain. Analysis determined that the stains were, in fact, taco sauce. They thought they had evidence of Mexico’s involvement until they realized it was from the ninjas coming back from Taco Bell.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/165 "2021-09-24T16:13:59Z")

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I had assumed that they wrote their report, finding an extra 100,000 votes for Trump, before they even took the job. My only question now is what made them change their minds. Fear of being accused of fraud. Notice that Texas (which Trump won) is prepared to follow AZ down the same rabbit hole. And maybe PA and others.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/166 "2021-09-24T16:18:48Z")

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They couldn’t credibly change the facts. Republicans learned the most important lesson, which is if you want to sell an election lie, suppress even more voters and muddy the waters as the votes are coming in, not after they’ve already been counted, reported, and certified. They probably won’t fail next time

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/167 "2021-09-24T16:26:50Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> I had assumed that they wrote their report, finding an extra 100,000 votes for Trump, before they even took the job. My only question now is what made them change their minds.

Maybe they caught a glimpse of Dominion’s lawyers grinning and cracking their knuckles.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/168 "2021-09-24T16:31:03Z")

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Bambooo in the waaateeer, fire in the sky.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/169 "2021-09-24T16:52:27Z")

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I was thinking of this one:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/xGFoJahe3uc/maxresdefault.jpg "Bamboo -Peter Paul n Mary") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGFoJahe3uc)

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/170 "2021-09-24T17:57:17Z")

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So even the most extreme hyperpartisan bunch of nitwits couldn’t find proof that Biden lost Arizona. The logical next step in Bizzaro world? Make a fraudit of Texas! Demand a recount of a state you already won! The brilliance of it all!

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/171 "2021-09-24T18:04:55Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Demand a recount of a state you already won!

“Oops, it looks like Biden won Texas too. Awkward!”

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/172 "2021-09-24T18:10:34Z")

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I confess I didn’t exactly see that coming. I suspect they changed their angle after it was pointed out that if they were going to come up with different results they’d have be able to actually prove it in a court of law. For some reason the standard of proof required is different between the courts and Fox & Friends.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/173 "2021-09-24T18:16:10Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> They couldn’t credibly change the facts. Republicans learned the most important lesson, which is if you want to sell an election lie, suppress even more voters and muddy the waters as the votes are coming in, not after they’ve already been counted, reported, and certified. They probably won’t fail next time

This is really an important point. Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger aren’t paragons of election virtue, they were ( and remain ) epic cheaters that are willing to rig the game as much as they can to win.

You know that if there was any conceivable way they could’ve “found” extra votes for Trump, they would’ve. But they can’t just say “we found 12,000 extra votes”, they’d have to explain where they came from and why they were missed.

They fact that they couldn’t is a strong testament to the security of our elections.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/174 "2021-09-24T18:51:53Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> They fact that they couldn’t is a strong testament to the security of our elections…

In this particular case it may also have had something to do with the strong pushback from Maricopa Republican officials who had a real stake in not being made fools of. Compliant local authorities might have made manufacturing evidence more workable.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/175 "2021-09-24T19:24:32Z")

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[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/backers-trumps-false-fraud-claims-seek-control-next-us-elections-2021-09-22/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/backers-trumps-false-fraud-claims-seek-control-next-us-elections-2021-09-22/)

> Reuters interviewed nine of the 15 declared Republican candidates for secretary of state in five battleground states – Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada – and reviewed public statements by all of the candidates. Ten of the 15 have either declared that the 2020 election was stolen or called for their state’s results to be invalidated or further investigated.

These are the people who could decide whether to accept election results, or to let House Republicans select the president over the objections of voters.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/176 "2021-09-24T21:51:10Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> There was great excitement at Cyber Ninjas when a large number of ballots had a similar stain. Analysis determined that the stains were, in fact, taco sauce. They thought they had evidence of Mexico’s involvement until they realized it was from the ninjas coming back from Taco Bell.

I can’t tell if this is a joke or if it actually happened.

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**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/177 "2021-09-24T23:06:35Z")

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I checked [Foxnews.com](http://Foxnews.com) to review its coverage. There are currently no articles on the site about the Arizona audit.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/178 "2021-09-24T23:36:04Z")

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My landlord is watching something about the Arizona audit right now, and they’re talking about voting irregularities that call the result into question. What the heck are they talking about, so I can be prepared when he inevitably goes “Ah-HA!” at me?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/179 "2021-09-24T23:41:00Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> What the heck are they talking about, so I can be prepared when he inevitably goes “Ah-HA!” at me?

According to the Arizona Republic:

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> Copies of the draft audit report obtained and reviewed Thursday by The Arizona Republic recommended that “several specific findings of our audit be further reviewed by the Arizona Attorney General for a possible investigation.”
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> Among those are questions about mail-in ballots from voters who moved in and out of the state prior to registration deadlines and allegations that more ballots were returned than went out.

I suspect that there’s nothing to any of that, but it lets them talk about “things need to be looked into!” for a while longer.

> **[Arizona audit updates: Small group gathers at state Capitol for J6 rally](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/09/01/arizona-election-senate-audit-cyber-ninjas-maricopa-county/5673563001/)**
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> The Arizona Senate in early 2021 initiated an audit of Maricopa County's November 2020 election. The process, which had been expected to last a month, is finally coming to a close.

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**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-arizona-recount-reactions/942378/180 "2021-09-25T01:01:56Z")

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This whole thing is sort of reminiscent of the newspapers’ recount of the 2000 Florida votes.

> **[Media Recount: Bush Won the 2000 Election](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/media-jan-june01-recount_04-03)**
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> More than three months after Democrat Al Gore conceded the contested 2000 election, an independent hand recount of Florida's ballots released Tuesday says he would have lost anyway, even if officials would have allowed the hand count he requested.

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